a question about jobs in europe

[bbell2]

i'm curious as to how the demand for good installers is in europe (anywhere really).
here in the states there are a ton of intallers but finding a good one is sometimes hard to do.
just creating a topic http://www.termpro.com/ubb/smile.gif
and am curious

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[Dr.Loudness]

Thank you for question.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>in the states there are a ton of intallers but finding a good one is sometimes hard to do<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Same here. http://www.termpro.com/ubb/frown.gif

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[bbell2]

that's what i figured.....what kind of cash do you make over there? i'm doing pretty good as alot are i'm sure.

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[This message has been edited by bbell2 (edited 03-01-2001).]

[Dr.Loudness]

I can't say for whole Europe, because each state have it's own market and different buying power. I live in small (BS) country with only 2.000.000 people and relatively small buying power.

I am importer, but I am not making any big money out of that. At least for now. I have big plans for this season, but we will se what will happen.

Otherwise we charge our customers app. 15 USD per hour, but in western Europe that can be 2x, 3x more.


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[bbell2]

that's pretty interesting, thanks for the response.
here in the states the average is $40.00-$55.00 us dollars per hour to give you an idea.

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[Tinted]

Try $70-$80/hr in Canada.

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[Dr.Loudness]

To Tinted:

Canadian $ or US$???


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[bbell2]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tinted:
Try $70-$80/hr in Canada.

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that would equal to about $10.00 american right? heehee j/k


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[Dr.Loudness]

To be exact we don't charge them 15 Dolars, HeHeHe, but we charge them 3000 Tolars + 19% tax. http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/s/net3/grinbiginvert.gif

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[bbell2]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dr.Loudness:
To be exact we don't charge them 15 Dolars, HeHeHe, but we charge them 3000 Tolars + 19% tax. http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/s/net3/grinbiginvert.gif

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i know it probably isn't actually that much but wow............that just sounds lika alot http://www.termpro.com/ubb/smile.gif

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[Jani U]

only 19% tax, lucky you... in Finland it's 22% and in Sweden 25% ! http://www.termpro.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[losichu]

Hey, Jani U, is that the tax for everything in Finland??? I'll be going there in April, and I don't know what I am going to do in Helsinki for 4 days. You know of any car audio shops in Helsinki???

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[Jani U]

22% is the VAT (value-added tax) on most of the procuts. It is less in some, like food etc... I think you don't have to think about that. Almost everything is more expensive here, so prepare http://www.termpro.com/ubb/smile.gif

I think we have been talking about the shops in our bbs already. Personally I don't know the shops in Helsinki since I don't live near. But like guys have pointed out, if you'll be here on April 13-16 you definately should go to American Car Show.

Come to check us, it's only 200 miles from Helsinki http://www.termpro.com/ubb/wink.gif

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[Dr.Loudness]

I just want to state that % of tax don't mean anything. It is more in local customs and competition to determine price. While it is possible to say, that price for one item is similar in US it is almost impossible to say that for Europe. So some Items might be cheaper in Finland even tax is higher than in Slovenia, and something might be more expensive in Slovenia with lower taxes.

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[Stig W]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jani U:
only 19% tax, lucky you... in Finland it's 22% and in Sweden 25% ! http://www.termpro.com/ubb/biggrin.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

And 24% in Norway

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[bbell2]

and lets not forget that the average income could be completely different........
if i made lets say $1000/wk and an amp was $500......and bob across town/ocean makes $500/wk and the same amp cost him $250....he would be in the same boat due to the "cost of living" and the cost percentage.
i think you know what i mean although this can get a little confusing. http://www.termpro.com/ubb/smile.gif

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[Dr.Loudness]

Car audio products are usually more expensive in Europe than in US.

And it is not enough just to compare average salary. You must look how much can you afford at the end of the month after you pay all expenses.

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[bbell2]

that's exactly what i meant by my last post......sometimes i confuse myself http://www.termpro.com/ubb/smile.gif

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