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Team Naptime
11-08-2005, 08:23 AM
justan idea.. what's anyone else think....


since bass race is more about reaction time and control.... why the ban on burned cd's?

ie: why not just allow any music selection, provided its actually on a cd, and playing from the headunit/changer...

why does it have to be a purchased cd?

is there a reason behind it?

just curious.

it'd be nice to be able to use my burned cd's


the only reason i can think of is that people might modify the music. ie: add in more bass notes, enhance the bass lines, crew/chop the music etc... but, even so, its still their reaction time & control that matters.

i'm highly considering rebuilding my car with 16 - 10's or 12 - 12's for bass race, after my truck is completed. but i really dont want to run out and buy up ever conceivable cd just to be able to test it / run it through the lanes.

Mike Fallon
11-08-2005, 08:48 AM
I don't think its all reactiopn time. If I could burn a cd then it would just be a test tone at 47hz. This class is for the kids that don't have a mic at home and just like to play NORMAL music.

I am also sure that the record companies would like it better if people actually bought the cds!

Pipo
11-08-2005, 09:01 AM
This class is for the kids????????????

What do you mean?????????????

*SweetSPL*
11-08-2005, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by Pipo:
This class is for the kids????????????

What do you mean????????????? He means it's for short people like you....j/k. tongue.gif

DrBass
11-08-2005, 12:15 PM
Basically yeah, I could record a 50 hz tone in the background of a song, and hold a REALLY consistant volume level through the whole round.

The fact that your stuck to music that varies in note and volume, etc. adds to the "skill" needed

Will Alfonso
11-08-2005, 02:57 PM
If you dont think it is about reaction time you might want to do some averages math again . for example lets say that with the song I use my truck is capable of averaging 155db for 30 seconds with a perfect start now lets do that same average spl with a 1/2 second off start 152.4 and with a 1 second delay it is 149.8

155 spl times 29.5 = 4572.5 divided by 30 = 152.4

155 spl times 29 = 4495 divided by 30 = 149.9

even in the lower classes where people are holding a little back If they time their start late they may not have the ability to recover because too many zeros are averaged in even with full blast they might not make that 9.9 in their respective class.

Bass Race is the bomb becase it does not take the most money with the mose minds building it to win. Basically it has a " Driver " element that makes or breaks you. Anyone can go out and press one little button within 30 seconds.

dBSteve
11-08-2005, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by Will Alfonso:
If you dont think it is about reaction time you might want to do some averages math again . for example lets say that with the song I use my truck is capable of averaging 155db for 30 seconds with a perfect start now lets do that same average spl with a 1/2 second off start 152.4 and with a 1 second delay it is 149.8

155 spl times 29.5 = 4572.5 divided by 30 = 152.4

155 spl times 29 = 4495 divided by 30 = 149.9

even in the lower classes where people are holding a little back If they time their start late they may not have the ability to recover because too many zeros are averaged in even with full blast they might not make that 9.9 in their respective class.

Bass Race is the bomb becase it does not take the most money with the mose minds building it to win. Basically it has a " Driver " element that makes or breaks you. Anyone can go out and press one little button within 30 seconds. why start at 30 seconds or 29 seconds?

In testing at our shop I was able to do a consistant 129.3 starting at 27 seconds. We did this 5 times in a row.

Its not really about reaction time, its about controling the system to not break out of the desired class you wish to compete in.

Pipo
11-08-2005, 03:32 PM
Very well said Will, but I'm still trying to figure out your math :D

Will Alfonso
11-08-2005, 06:05 PM
Steve what was the true spl that your system is capable of? And as far as reaction time If I am trying to compete at the maximum threshold of my system Reaction time is everything. Over 150 baby!.

audiobuffru1
11-08-2005, 08:12 PM
also found with my alpine its gradualy increases volume once its taken off pause , and the way my box is set up i have to keep rear shelf in or iam out of my class did some testing 9 runs in row got same results same score ,but when your in the lanes its another story lol , hm i wanna do some testing to see if i can get the upper 140 with set up now ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

dBSteve
11-09-2005, 08:49 AM
Originally posted by Will Alfonso:
Steve what was the true spl that your system is capable of? It doesn't matter what max SPL is. All that matters is controling your system and winning your class.

BTW - I think peak SPL is around 145ish.

audiobuffru1
11-09-2005, 08:31 PM
speakn of peaking, has anyone tried out some nice bassguitar tracks , should peak the meter lil, i found several tracks with some nice high bass tracks of 54 to 60 for 30 secs,now i gotta find my billy shehan ,

Team Naptime
11-09-2005, 11:07 PM
Originally posted by DrBass:
Basically yeah, I could record a 50 hz tone in the background of a song, and hold a REALLY consistant volume level through the whole round.

The fact that your stuck to music that varies in note and volume, etc. adds to the "skill" needed i realize that bass race is about music. that's why i like the format so much...

the above answer is exactly what i was looking for. that helps me understand the "no burned cd's rule"


i was forgetting we dont live in an "honest" world.. lol... when "i" think about burned cd's i simply mean MUSIC i downloaded.. and burned onto cd's.

i wasn't thinking about the folks that would put a solid tone in the background, enhance the bass , etc....

thanks.... smile.gif

i just couldn't figure why the rule was in place, but that pretty much sums it up right there.

HCCAfan
11-09-2005, 11:26 PM
some of you guys need to remember the old cd's by dj magic mike, like the 5 minute bass drop. ;)

Team Naptime
11-10-2005, 09:23 AM
i use magic mike "feel the bass" for bass race smile.gif

started using it last year.


but, i dont have an original cd. its burned.

that's why i was wondering about burned cd's being aloud smile.gif lol

some of the old "miami style" bass music is great. but its REAL hard to come across an original. let alone, an original that's not beat to hell :(

TeamSubGoPoof
11-10-2005, 12:11 PM
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Pipo
11-10-2005, 01:25 PM
I bought that magic mike CD at Circuit City but that song did not do good at all for me.

SPL Jester
11-26-2005, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by HCCAfan is back:
some of you guys need to remember the old cd's by dj magic mike, like the 5 minute bass drop. ;) it was a 3 minute bass drop at 40 Hz

cmnstr
11-26-2005, 06:36 PM
I tried Bass Interlude from Dj magic Mike & T E C Master PEB at the finals it do to well for me there. Going back to Bass Mekanic

HCCAfan
11-26-2005, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by SPL Jester:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by HCCAfan is back:
some of you guys need to remember the old cd's by dj magic mike, like the 5 minute bass drop. ;) it was a 3 minute bass drop at 40 Hz </font>[/QUOTE]yup, song is called "this is for the bassheadz" or something like that smile.gif

Chris M Gregory
11-26-2005, 08:18 PM
I used a ZZ Tops song @ a local event in Dickson TN and held a consistent 128.3. Crazy huh

Team Livewire - Eric
11-27-2005, 08:46 AM
I didn't even know you could use bass cd's. I thought it had to be something with words.

Team Livewire - Eric
11-27-2005, 08:48 AM
Oh! Can you test for bass race by using the rolling average setting on your term lab?

HCCAfan
11-27-2005, 09:00 AM
Originally posted by Team Livewire - Eric:
I didn't even know you could use bass cd's. I thought it had to be something with words. as long as it has lyrics i do believe? i could be wrong on that one.

edthedrummer
11-27-2005, 01:09 PM
it doesnt have to have lyrics, is just has to be commercially available music, not just a test tone, or sweep, but something with music (not all music has words)

Chris M Gregory
11-27-2005, 07:42 PM
Eric,

Just go to any scoring mode from MECA to Db Drag Racing and set the socring to average. I tried testing it in rolling average mode and it didn't work to well.

Equalizer
11-27-2005, 07:54 PM
Oh! Can you test for bass race by using the rolling average setting on your term lab?

Test using the BASS RACE mode from your term lab meter

Team Livewire - Eric
11-28-2005, 05:55 AM
Originally posted by SPLMAX -- Sam:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> Oh! Can you test for bass race by using the rolling average setting on your term lab?

Test using the BASS RACE mode from your term lab meter </font>[/QUOTE]I don't think my term lab has a bass race mode. I bought it like 2 or 3 years ago.

Booming_Creation
11-29-2005, 01:40 PM
if it doesnt shouldnt it be able to be updated with it though. all you gotta go do is download the update