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Axilrod
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Ok i've decided to go against DD's spec box of 2.5 cubes/27 sq inches port/40hz

Ok here's what I want
I want to still be able to play somewhat low bass.
The Box can be about 3.5 cubic feet

How much port should I do, some people have told me 60 sq inches, but in a 3.5 cube box wont that be tuned too high? I want the maximum port possible without losing alot of low bass. Please help me out, i'm ready to get htis thing done. Just tell me the size and port area and I'll design a box from there. Any help, as always, is appreciated. Thanx

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what you should do is build your box with a rectangle port, tune it to around 45hz, then add slots of mdf to descrease the port area and thus descrease the tuning frequency until it sounds right or the way you like.

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Axilrod
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Well what would this be :

3 cubes after displacements
60 sq inches of port

What would this tune to?

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Alpine CDA7863
Infinity Mids and highs
DD 9512 (Sold)
Custom Ported Box
Concept CC-D2400a
Optima Yellow top
Stinger 0 gauge wire
All Stinger HPM interconnects and accessories
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depends on how long the port is. I would take jaggy's advice and start with a huge port(over 100sq in) and section it so you can block off sections and lower the tuning. As for the exact tuning, call the number on DD's site or email them, they're usually very helpful.

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3.0 after with 60 sq. in. of vent would be awesome. For 40 Hz., 27.3" long, for 45 Hz., 20.25" long.

-AR

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Axilrod
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What do you mean by long, the depth of the port, or the length of the box long? I dont really have the room for 27 inches deep.

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Alpine CDA7863
Infinity Mids and highs
DD 9512 (Sold)
Custom Ported Box
Concept CC-D2400a
Optima Yellow top
Stinger 0 gauge wire
All Stinger HPM interconnects and accessories
Dynamat Extreme

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Axilrod
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And couldn't I make a really wide slot, like 5 inches across, to make up for the length?

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Alpine CDA7863
Infinity Mids and highs
DD 9512 (Sold)
Custom Ported Box
Concept CC-D2400a
Optima Yellow top
Stinger 0 gauge wire
All Stinger HPM interconnects and accessories
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OK. Here we go:

the length of the port determines the tuning frequency.

Longer the port, lower it tunes.

The greater the surface area of the port, the longer it must be for the same tuning frequency.

Smaller box uses longer port...as the box gets bigger the port gets shorter, which is why big boxes can fit lots of port area.

Back to this:

3.0 after with 60 sq. in. of vent would be awesome. For 40 Hz., 27.3" long, for 45 Hz., 20.25" long.
-AR

Go with that.



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Axilrod
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Damn isn't 45 hz too high for music?? I want to be somewhere in the 30 hz range.

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Alpine CDA7863
Infinity Mids and highs
DD 9512 (Sold)
Custom Ported Box
Concept CC-D2400a
Optima Yellow top
Stinger 0 gauge wire
All Stinger HPM interconnects and accessories
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Axilrod
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ttt

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I NEED 1 DD 9515
Alpine CDA7863
Infinity Mids and highs
DD 9512 (Sold)
Custom Ported Box
Concept CC-D2400a
Optima Yellow top
Stinger 0 gauge wire
All Stinger HPM interconnects and accessories
Dynamat Extreme

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i'll get you some box specs when I get to my home computer tonight

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3.25 cubes after port and driver displacement.
port 5 x 10 = 50 inches of port 24 long(just make an L port if you don't have the depth) is tunned to 37 htz.
50 inches of port is plenty, or even 40sq inches.
I had 80sq inches with 2 9512's doing 151.?? at 35-39 htz... yummy

And you can always make port length come out of the box. Through that whole, on the passenger side that folds down in the Lude.

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Yep, bigger the box, shorter the vent. I had assumed you wanted more SPL than SQ. Here's how I'd do it.

3.0^3 ft. after displacements.
30 sq. in. of port.
17.5" long for 35 Hz.
14 1/8" long for 38 Hz.

My 9512 is in a 2.58^3 ft. box with 24 sq. in. of vent tuned to 35 Hz. DD recommends 20 sq. in. of vent, which worked fine in my 2.29^3 ft. box. Really no noticable port noise with your head at the vent.

-AR

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2001 F-150 XLT 4x4 Off-Road SuperCab
- Premier DEH-P980BT
- MB Quart QM 215.3CX Crossovers
- DD T1 Tweeters
- RF 5.25's
- Eclipse SE 5x7's
- Cadence A7+hc
- Digital Designs 9512e (2.75^3 ft., 31^2 in. @ 35 Hz. "Downfiring")
- Viper 500ESP Alarm


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Axilrod
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I want it somewhere between spl and sq, I still want to be able to drop low, but post respectable numbers at the same time.

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I NEED 1 DD 9515
Alpine CDA7863
Infinity Mids and highs
DD 9512 (Sold)
Custom Ported Box
Concept CC-D2400a
Optima Yellow top
Stinger 0 gauge wire
All Stinger HPM interconnects and accessories
Dynamat Extreme

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