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5283
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k can you help me. i designed a box for a 12l7 but i dont know if its right.
-2.25 cubes total after displacement
-inner dimensions 23x16x12.5
-ports are 3x3x14.75
-i will have 2 pieces of wood separating the two chambers they are .75x16x12.5
-with displacement, i calculated 2.654
-tuned to 35hz, is this correct? any help is appreciated, thanks.

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i get to be the first to post on the 2 year anniversary........wow. anyhow any ideas on one of these bad boys for a fosgate punch hx2 12...........brett

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to calculate the port lengths with WINISD do I say i want a 5cuft box(my abc is this size after discplacements) tuned to 35hz. I want to use 5" diameter PVC. Anyways I put all that info in saying i want 2 ports... I got the length to be 13" now do I divide that by 3 to get the length of what each of my port should be?

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quote:
Originally posted by 5283:
k can you help me. i designed a box for a 12l7 but i dont know if its right.
-2.25 cubes total after displacement
-inner dimensions 23x16x12.5
-ports are 3x3x14.75
-i will have 2 pieces of wood separating the two chambers they are .75x16x12.5
-with displacement, i calculated 2.654
-tuned to 35hz, is this correct? any help is appreciated, thanks.

this box would be too small for an ABC.... you would need closer to atleast 6 cubic feet of net airspace.

2.6 cubes might even be a little too small for a regular ported setup....

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o bummer. did i have it right at least?
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ok, by request. To calculate proper port length using winISD, use the large chamber only as the total volume. Then multiply your desired tuning frequency by 0.9. Use the port length found for ALL 3 ports.

Say I have a box that is 3 cu ft after displacement for both chambers, or 2/1. I would use 2 cu ft as the volume. I've decided to tune my box to 33 Hz. 33 * .9 = 30. I would calculate a port for 30 Hz tuning and a box 2 cu ft. Just pick a diameter. It's pretty easy, and leave room for tinkering. ie, make the ports 2" longer than usual and trim them after. Or you can tinker with stuffing. I've yet to see a report on abc boxes and stuffing effects.


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Should I/could I use an ABC box design for two Shocker Extreme 12" mice?

Probably two different boxes I assume.

What kind of SPL comes from this design - what is the true benefit?

What would I tune it to - my rez is 49Hz?

Man this post is long long.

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pages 16, and 17 will have all the info you need concerning the design of this enclosure....

its a VERY loud, box, with some sound quality...

hope this helps,

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quote:
Originally posted by Rodon:
Should I/could I use an ABC box design for two Shocker Extreme 12" mice?

Probably two different boxes I assume.

What kind of SPL comes from this design - what is the true benefit?

What would I tune it to - my rez is 49Hz?

Man this post is long long.


u don't want to tune near your res frequency. this box is kind of a loud sq box. if u want spl go with a regular ported box with slot ports.
i am going to be building a ABC box soon for a shocker 12. here's what i got if u are still interested.
5 cubic feet total
3.33 cubic feet larger chamber
1.66 cubic feet smaller chamber
5 inch diameter round ports
15 inches in length
tuned around 33 hertz
mr. flamboyant helped me a little with the port length. if u have ne real technical questions.....ask him

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Ok MrFlamboyant and emu, here are the T/S parameters for the JBL-LC S1250w
Nominal Impedance 4ohms
Revc 3.45ohms
Fs 27.4Hz
Vas 109litres
Qms 3.18
Qes 0.37
Qts 0.33
Mms 109.23g
Levc 2.23mH

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C'mon you people let it reach on page 3. I thought you were trying to keep it at the top
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THE BUMPASAURUS RETURNS.

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quote:
Originally posted by CaveFish:
THE BUMPASAURUS RETURNS.

I think I watched that one last week...


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I was at a Bose radio outlet store in Grove City, PA and one of there displays was a plexi box so you could see everything. The best way to describe the thing would be an ABC-Bandpass or a Dual-ABC. there were three chambers.

#1 the biggest chamber held a large port to the outside of the box. And 3 small ports from the other chambers

#2 held the body of the subs (facing the rear wall,mounted into the 3rd chamber) and was 1/4 the size of the biggest chamber it had 2 small ports that led into the biggest chamber.

#3 was 1/2 the sides of the biggest and 2x the size of #2 (the middle chamber) The subs fired into this chamber and it had a port that passed though the 2nd chamber and back into the biggest chamber.

I hope you can get the picture from that but it was the most inmpressive enclosure I've ever seen.

For example
Chamber 1: 4 cube w/ 1 big port = 35hz
Chamber 2: 1 cube w/ 2 small ports =80hz
Chamber 3: 2 cubes w/ 1 small/long port =40hz

it sounded pretty low so that's just a guess on tunning.


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Dunno about you guys but its a friggin biatch to get a big box in my trunk...trunk maybe big but the entrance to it is not, looks like it's ripping out the front seats again...

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I am gonna use a 9512 in an ABC. External dimensions are 31.5 x 14 x 23. I want to use square ports. How big and how long?

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ray,

your only going to have 4.5 cubes RAW airspace (b4 sub & port displacement)

i have no personal experience with the 9512, but i remember hearing that they like larger ported boxes.... SO, if a sub USUALLY likes a "larger" ported box, and ABC box would need to be even "LARGER" (to work properly/maximum potential).... otherwise, you may have to do just regular ported....

so back to the drawing board
let me know if i can help more,

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quote:
Originally posted by Toomuchnoise:
I was at a Bose radio outlet store in Grove City, PA and one of there displays was a plexi box so you could see everything. The best way to describe the thing would be an ABC-Bandpass or a Dual-ABC. there were three chambers.

#1 the biggest chamber held a large port to the outside of the box. And 3 small ports from the other chambers

#2 held the body of the subs (facing the rear wall,mounted into the 3rd chamber) and was 1/4 the size of the biggest chamber it had 2 small ports that led into the biggest chamber.

#3 was 1/2 the sides of the biggest and 2x the size of #2 (the middle chamber) The subs fired into this chamber and it had a port that passed though the 2nd chamber and back into the biggest chamber.

I hope you can get the picture from that but it was the most inmpressive enclosure I've ever seen.

For example
Chamber 1: 4 cube w/ 1 big port = 35hz
Chamber 2: 1 cube w/ 2 small ports =80hz
Chamber 3: 2 cubes w/ 1 small/long port =40hz

it sounded pretty low so that's just a guess on tunning.


Did it have a little red button next to it?

Did you see the horn loaded 2" alarm clock?

Oh, man, I love Bose...

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OMG this post is still here!!!

I hope many have enjoyed more bass because of this post.

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lets see it hit 500
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BUMP!

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