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The Buzz
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I have noticed a ressurgance of ABC box requests so here is the famous "Dukk ABC Box Tutorial" for all of those that are interested.. Follow this link-
http://www.termpro.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/000124.html and also http://www.termpro.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/000222.html

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[This message has been edited by The Buzz (edited 12-10-1999).]


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Dukk
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That Buzz, always so helpful....

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And that's the bottom line, cuz:
LORD DUKK SAYS SO!

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The Dukk says: Know your bass: PORT your damn box!!
Have HoleSaw, Will Travel!


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I was looking for old post on this two and one in particulare It had Dukk saying "I only do this one a year to see what kind of responce it gets" But I can't find it. It had the best and origonal description.

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Ow ow ow found it now that I look at it The Buzz Found it but this is the most in portent part of the post!
It comes from the thread "Calling Dukk"
http://www.termpro.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/000124.html
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posted 07-25-99 12:01 PM
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Ok, here it comes one time! I only explain these in detail once a year (I make $$ on them )
For that DVC 15. Build a box with 2 chambers, one at 3 cuft and the other one EXACTLY half of that, ie 1.5 cuft. Next cut 3 ports all IDENTICAL in length. Put one in the face of each chamber and the third in the wall separating the two chambers. In this instance each port would be either 12.5" long for a little deeper response or 8" long for a little more SPL.
Now you have a box with a big chamber with a vent in it, a small chamber with a vent in it, and a third vent in the wall between the two. The woofer also mounts in the large chamber.
The way they work is that, at low frequencies, it all functions as one big box with 2 ports, and is tuned to 30Hz (12.5") or 35HZ (8"). At higher frequencies the middle port starts to restrict air movement and the second chamber begins to act more as a resonance chamber but not as part of the box. At this point a second tuning frequency develops 1.9 times (almost an octave) higher than the lower one , ie. either at 57Hz (12.5") or 67Hz (8").
This is similar to a vented bandpass but has more output and smoother sound due to the woofer not being tucked inside the box. The results are that it plays both low and loud, while being relatively nice sounding. The drawback is the box size.

Did one 2 years ago in a sedan with 1 12 on 400 watts and pulled a 138 on music. There's a guy around here with 2 DVC 15s like this in a Daytona off a single 800a2 pulling 149s.
They work but can be intense to build. They are the ONLY box I take care to factor exactly both port displacement and woofer displacement. Mess one of these up and they work very poorly....

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And that's the bottom line, cuz:
LORD DUKK SAYS SO!

The Big Show
The Dukk says: Know your bass: PORT your damn box!!
Have HoleSaw, Will Travel!


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Capple
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www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Flats/9916/

[This message has been edited by capple (edited 12-11-1999).]

[This message has been edited by capple (edited 12-11-1999).]


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SO much for the $$......

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And that's the bottom line, cuz:
LORD DUKK SAYS SO!

The Big Show
The Dukk says: Know your bass: PORT your damn box!!
Have HoleSaw, Will Travel!


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Just keeping this fresh..
I will probably try to build one of these myself for fun when I get something to use it with

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Keeping it fresh for the new guys!

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And that's the bottom line, cuz:
LORD DUKK SAYS SO!

The Big Show
The Dukk says: Know your bass: PORT your damn box!!
Have HoleSaw, Will Travel!


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Momma always said fresh is as fresh does

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Freshness is next to Godliness!

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And that's the bottom line, cuz:
LORD DUKK SAYS SO!

The Big Show
The Dukk says: Know your bass: PORT your damn box!!
Have HoleSaw, Will Travel!


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Refresh for PB!

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And that's the bottom line, cuz:
LORD DUKK SAYS SO!

The Big Show
The Dukk says: Know your bass: PORT your damn box!!
Have HoleSaw, Will Travel!


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Dukk, that's an amazing formula for an ABC box!! They always look so complicated when I see them, but you explained it so clearly and easily. Thanks!! I'm gonna do that as a project some time. I compute the box for 2 ports at my selected frequency right? And when I'm doing box size, I gotta add the woofer displacement to the bigger box's size right?

Thanks!
Sam


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Correct. And Thank You. I think if anyone had to explain anything technical for 8 years they would probably get it down pat!

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And that's the bottom line, cuz:
LORD DUKK SAYS SO!

The Big Show
The Dukk says: Know your bass: PORT your damn box!!
Have HoleSaw, Will Travel!


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Looks like ABC time again....

hehehe.

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Blow your mind - PORT your box!

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Beat me to it.. I was meaning to drag this one back up

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Is this still fresh?

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Man you have NO idea how deeeeep I had to go to dig this one up.

Then I wised up and used the search. Found it in 2 minutes. DOH!!

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Blow your mind - PORT your box!

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I was just about to ask another ABC question a week ago when it hit me to do a search. Found way too much information, got confused, hit my head on the desk and passed out.

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Confused? Ask away. There's even some decent diagrams in some of the posts (not by me though since I'm a computer retard)

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Blow your mind - PORT your box!

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Let us Prey....


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Alot of times I'll understand stuff but wonder how the heck to build it. (ex: You've got a port between the two chambers in an ABC, whaddya do, lube it with glue and stick it in the opening?) I'm gonna take woodworking Junior year so I can build my own boxes, and I'll fit electronics in somewhere.

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Cut the hole very exactly and don't spare the silicone!!!!!

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Blow your mind - PORT your box!

D R A G U L A
Let us Prey....


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All right Dukk, about that $$ that you make on those ABC boxes, since I can't have you make mine, if you come to Arizona, dinner's on me! Thanks for the help.

Sam

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Since i might have opened a can o worm w/ my post. THis will help those that want to know more.

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