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burton
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why do everybody build boxes out of 3/4 mdf instead of plywood? is there that big of a difference?
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Yes.
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Unless its birch plywood I wouldnt use it. MDF is the golden standard pretty much because it's pretty acoustically dead and not expensive really.

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my father in law owns a cabinet shop. hes got birch and maple ply and 3/4 mdf and 1 inch mdf. what to use?
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mdf is what i've always used never tried birch... migh have to try it for the next box
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mdf sucks use birch

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I think the main advantage of birch plywood is light weight, they're widely used for pro audio speaker enclosures. I've used MDF since day one, it works well and it's cheap.


But nothing is as solid as concrete boxes... [Big Grin]

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Yea, and birch has better 'bite' for the screws. After this last enclosure I like birch quite a bit

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birch is alot better then MDF and flexs less also if u get the 11+ ply if i remeber right there is also a 13 ply birch also it costs more but hella nicer and hell u don't even need to paint it just stain it lol

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IIRC Birch Ply is about 3x stiffer than MDF... few years back Dan Wiggins posted about this somewhere.

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since 2002 i use birch ply , never used mdf after the first box made and tested
on the old mics it did 1 db over mdf

the box has always been birch , the port mdf cause its easyer to work with

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ive got the 13 ply birch now . ive got lots of each the birch and mdf. i like the ply its lighter just didnt know which one to use. thanks
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I LIKE MY BIRCH 15 Ply lol the good stuff $150.00 a sheet

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sry mine is just the 13 ply. but mines free!!!!! i need a box design if anybody could help. 4 15s ported. i got a cnc machine and all the wood i need. thanks
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whats it going in

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its a 88 nissan truck. got a snug topcamper and its cut out(walk through)
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pics have any pics

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no im working on it. i got 4 15 inch jbl gto dvc. how would two 1500.1 crunch amps push them wired up at one ohm?
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Crunch GPV2000.1D i think u would like alot better and not much more money or if was me i would wait for the new GPV3000.1D-PRO

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nine layers of 3/4 " birch (actually .7") fits the outside diameter of a 6" piece of pvc pipe 6.3" exactly......I always laminate with resign and hardner and screw together while still wet. roughly two sheets of birch weigh the same as one mdf.

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I would use nothing less than 7ply birch. I love 11ply but the problems I've had is when cutting birch, it likes to splinter if you're not careful or have a fine tooth blade. I normaly run a strip of masking tape along the cut line so it doesn't splinter

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my father in law owns a cabinet shop we got a cnc to cut everything out no splinters!
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Nice!!!

My next box will be cut on a CNC

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Anyone used the trupan ultralight MDF?


I got a sheet and its really light but Im worried that it may allow for my box to flex more..

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i prefer to use birch, but usually use MDF...but with people complaining about box prices, i may have to switch to gluing layers of cardboard together for em.

oooh. or paper. [Smile]

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