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MR.T3
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Carbon fiber is more expensive.

I have seen the cones break at 155db, in a problematic backpressure enclosure.

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quote:
Originally posted by dtbrown:
I'm a street competitor and personally never seen or have had a DD "kevlar" cone break bend or shatter. I've seen it happen in a super street car doing over 165db with over 10000w of power to the sub. So hope that gives you an idea of how much stress they can take. And from my understanding when I asked DD why they don't make carbon fiber cones is because they said it's more expensive then the "kevlar"

i used to run the carbon fiber cones they made...they were the ****!

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I loved DD subs but I'll never run the kevlar/composite/whatever cones again because of the length of time it takes to recone them

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Hmm and I thought the composite cones were supposed to increase "SQ"...I guess I thought wrong. I love learning new stuff. Also I heard that the all carbon fiber cones would shatter and the Kevlar would bend but heard the new composite they have is better than both. I think TVE was bending the kevlar but the new composites they have had no problems???

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The SS/Ext subs must hold 30kW easily with kevlar cone. Shocker use kevlar + CF and we dont see cones breaking/bending.

At HALs volvo, 6x 15 did over 600 burps at 20-25kW before being replaced for new ones before last 3X in Brazil

Spyder also makes good subs, if you see the blue SS1-2 147 you will see 2x 15 with paper cone taking 26kW each (2x SD8000 at 15V) to do 166

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I think the cones only break when there is a problem in the box??

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quote:
Originally posted by dd151.9:
I think the cones only break when there is a problem in the box??

not necessarily a problem...

but a lot of back pressure

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how about carbon fiber / glass fiber aluminum honeycomb center cones ?

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I have a sample of that sitting right here. Mass is the problem, the aluminum-core material I've seen is very heavy.

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