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i have not tested the comparison with a subwoofer that has a 4inch coil vs a 3 inch coil yet. How were your scores different PM me

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Typically my understanding is for spl purposes a 3 inch coil works better and more efficient. Less weight for one. Now power handling. 4 inch all the way baby. But that also is decided by cooling of the sub and coil windings

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in street class, 3" coil for sure. 4" is going to be less efficient. The 3" should handle whatever you can burp off a limited electrical system in street
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X2 to what has been posted. No need for 4" in street with the small battery limit. Even in streetmax where you can use a multicell hand have more power its still not enough.

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good stuff

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4" have the upperhand in street and street max

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How so?

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street B and C at finals had 4"
street max 1-2 and 3-4 had 4" coils

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What does that prove? Nothing. If they tested 3" first and went to 4" of the same motor and scored higher then it would prove it.

Steve Cook ran 3" coil Crossfire subs and is breaking 170's all day. Bob runs 4" coil subs and more of them so 3" coil must be better for SS5+. [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes]

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we have tried 3 inch and 4 inch. no difference in score at all.

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How have you tried them oh Baldmaster? [Smile] Same motor different sized coil? Thats the only way to know IMHO.

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well i guess we did it all wrong then. different motors. i guess im not as good at this as i thought.

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nope your not. [Smile]

Can you tell me how you would know what is better without using the same motor?

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How would the same motor be able to house both sizes?

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quote:
Originally posted by AudioXtremes:
nope your not. [Smile]

Can you tell me how you would know what is better without using the same motor?

i guess i dont know. o well ill just keep doing what im doing cause it seems to be working pretty well.

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Why are you turning this into something about you and how much you know or don't know John?

I'll be the first to tell you that I don't know everything. Or even close to everything.

But this post was about what would be louder in street. And a motor of the same diameter and gap size the 3" would be louder than the 4" I would think at least because of moving mass being lower and motor strength being higher on the 3".

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quote:
Originally posted by AudioXtremes:
Why are you turning this into something about you and how much you know or don't know John?

I'll be the first to tell you that I don't know everything. Or even close to everything.

But this post was about what would be louder in street. And a motor of the same diameter and gap size the 3" would be louder than the 4" I would think at least because of moving mass being lower and motor strength being higher on the 3".

i was just saying we have tested 3 and 4. their was no difference but i guess we did it wrong. you are the one who started running ur mouth. if im wrong then so be it. have a great day and keep up the hard work.

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quote:
Originally posted by AudioXtremes:
What does that prove? Nothing. If they tested 3" first and went to 4" of the same motor and scored higher then it would prove it.

Steve Cook ran 3" coil Crossfire subs and is breaking 170's all day. Bob runs 4" coil subs and more of them so 3" coil must be better for SS5+. [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes]

hmm i never had my hands on the crossfire subs
but wat if there 3inch coils are long coils...how would that compare to 4inch coils

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Aparently me speaking my mind in a public forum is running my mouth. So I'm out of this conversation.

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I tried both and they where about the same. But typically 3" is more efficient. So if you plan on doing street class I'd stick with 3"
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3" for both

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id also try aluminum vs copper [Wink]

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Ok heres a good one what ever works for your set up. I think this is the awnser hes looking for.

Just because it works for this guy dont meen its gona work for that guy. If ya have it use it if it dont work try something els. Till ya find what works. Good luck

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quote:
Originally posted by quad box:
3" for both

Quad Wood formers or not ?!?? [Big Grin]

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