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alaska
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http://216.150.71.139/audioinnovation/impanalyzer.html

found this surfin around a few minutes ago...i'm definitely gonna try building it, doesn't look too hard and would be very useful.

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couldn't you do that w/ a laptop, and a multimeter that has computer capabilities?
i know my multimeter does.. i just have to hook it up to my computer and i can do graphs and such...... but that thing is neat however..

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Is it just me.. Or could you measure the in box impedance w/ a voltmeter and a 5$ inline ammeter?

IE- One input voltage.. Measure the current.. Use ohms law.

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alaska
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right, i know there are other ways but consider this the "semi-lazy" person's impedance mapper

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That seems cool but there's more to it than just building the device. This is from the site "Other Things You Will Need

Now that you've got the impedance analyzer all finished, it's time to learn how to use it. I won't go into any theory on how this thing works, because you don't really need to know. It's more important to know how to make it work and give you accurate readings. You will need along with your brand new impedance analyzer the following items:

Frequency Generator

Frequency Counter

Amplifier

Digital Voltmeter

Your speaker

Some wires "
If you have a Linear-X meter, the PCRTA or the RTAjr, both will do in box impedence. the PCRTA will do alot more than the RTAjr though.

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alaska
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bah...freq generator/counter

we have test discs

i see you know the page...i just got bored and did some surfin. was lookin for good tech pages on enclosure building but didn't find any that said much more than i already knew. anyone know of any?

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Hmm.

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If you're low on equipment, you can calculate impedance the long manual way by purchasing a high power 10 ohm resistor. all you need is a sine wave generator(or oscillator) and a multimeter.

using the resistor in series witht he speaker you measure the voltage across the resistor as well as the speaker for each frequency. The formula for speaker impedance is
speaker impedance = VS(across speaker) / VR(across resistor) * 10(or the resistance of the resistor.

it's good for getting decent results with a minimum of a computer, multimeter, resistor and the stereo equipment(amp, subs)

whenever testing a speaker in free-air, try to hang the speaker from the ceiling if possible or put it on the least reflective surface you can find.

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Following up on emu's post, yeah, be sure to do speaker measurements in a truly free-air environment (i.e. hanging subwoofer from a clothes line outdoors). I once tested an 18" sub's T/S params in a large dorm hallway and then again outdoors...the difference was something like 20%. Maybe smaller subs wouldn't be affected as much, but still...

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my neighbors would really think im crazy hanging a sub out on the clothes line, lol,
j/k guys, i know you gotta do what has to be done to do stuff right sometimes

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