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doughboy
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After reading a few post on programs not calculating for port and driver displacement this leaves me to ask.. What is the correct way to get the port where you want it. If my box is 4.6ft^3 before port and driver displacement, so I subtract driver displacement and say ummm 4.3ft^3 now for the port, I figure the port for a box that is 4.3ft^3 but after port displacement the box is now 4ft^3 does this raise my tuning freq? Anyone get what im saying? "hope so"

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Depends on how accurate you want it. Figuring in the sub displacement is good, try to get the port displacement in there as well, but don't worry too much if you're 0.1cuft out as it won't affect the sound much.
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evalf(solve(((((8846.4*(pr^2))*((vb-(((pie*(pr^2))*x)/1728))*fb^2))-(1.463*pr))=x),x));

pr = port radius in inchs
vb = box volume in cubic feet after woofer displacement
fb = tuned freq in hz

This is the formula I use from maple 5.0 to figure out port lengths exactly. You can get a "demo" version of maple that will do this for you for free from their site. Very fast way of doing it. Should be very acurate. Let me know if you have any questions.

Port displacement becomes very large very quick when you start talking anything over 4-6" round port.

[This message has been edited by TGuY (edited 04-20-2001).]


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Well I will be using slot ports. The reason I ask is because it will be a switchable SPL to daily drive port. So for SPL the port will be upwards of 100in^2 which could hender alot of air space in the box. What is the website for that program?

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http://tguy.stoleyourdomain.com/mvr4demo.exe

I put a copy of the demo there. You can convert slot ports into radius with something like this:

evalf(solve(((pie*(x^2))=pa),x));

pa = port area in square inchs

[This message has been edited by TGuY (edited 04-20-2001).]


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net volume and total volume can be considered two different things to clarify box building. remember, the driver wants 4.6 ft^3 of air. If your square port has a volume of .3 ft^3,and your driver displacement is .2 ft^3, then add them all together. Just make your box with an overall internal volume of 5.1 ft^3 and you will be set. These last two volumes are guesses, so just replace them with the proper volumes.

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MAPLE!!

Geez I hated that course.... That program licks nut.

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JL also has one on their site in the port tutorials
http://www.jlaudio.com

i've used it to calculate ports on three boxes now and all are tuned right (cones don't move when played at port tuning freq

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Might I suggest something..

If the application is particularly important (IE you want to dial in a peak response or best response in the car, etc) I suggest changing the port length.. Use the equations to help you find how much length to cut off per experiment, and see what sounds the best/gives you the highest SPL

ShadowStar

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ya, I agree.... EXPERIMENT>
but as far as calculating things correctly, its an iterative process. You use a given box size, figure out the correct port. then calculate the correct box size with that port and find the port size again. if the new port changes your box size again, do it again.
If you use slots against a wall in your enclosure your gonna have to experiment anyway. there are equations for that, but a lot of prople on here told me to ignore them which I did. End result, my enclosure was tuned to 45Hz instead of 62-63hz.

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