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Jom
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This question has bugged me for a while. I know that high voltage decks need a low impedance output for best sound (i.e. 5v 55ohms like my Eclipse 5504). What I don't know is why the low impedance is important. Supposedly, the low impedance has a flatter frequency response. I'm looking for a technical answer as to why. Any help?

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The lower the output impedance on the line, the less chance of noise introducing its self onto it. It also means you can "fan" it out to more amplifiers. My old Nakamichi Mobile CD Tuner 1 only have 500Mv of output, at like 1000ohms, but it was VERY good sounding! Output levels have very little, if anything, to do with "flatness" you refer to. They only have to do with the players ability to reject noise to the next downstream component.

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So why do manufacturers claim benefits for the lower impedance ratings? It seems the answers you gave also pertain to high voltage benefits. Is a 5V 55 ohm output better than a 5V 1000 ohm output? If so, is it only better because a low impedance load better rejects noise?

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Yes, the low impedance outputs are better for noise rejection. It's all about the ratio of the impedance of the amp to the deck.

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If I remember correctly, most amps have a high input impedance, maybe 10K ohms. Correct? So how does the low output impedance (i.e. 55 ohms) from the deck interact with the amp better than a 1000 ohm output impedance?

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Obviously the difference is small with 5v
at 50 ohm and 5 volt at 100 or 200 ohm with
an amp input impedance of 10 or 20 k. You
start adding multiple amps and you can see
a difference. Something you will notice,
the lower the deck output impedance the
less the amp's impedance has an effect on
the sound. A 1K output impedance can be
pulled down a little with a 10k load and
any capacitance characteristics the input
section of the amp might color
the sound. The lower the decks output
impedance the more impervious it is to be
effected by the Mac all the way down to
Sentrek amp. Noise is more easily overcome
by the high voltage, not that impedance has
no bearing on this.
Sorry for the confusing rant, I'm a little
feverish...



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Thanks for the answer, Techman. It's becoming clearer now. What effect on the sound would multiple amps cause?

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Well, here's a rough example.
Your building a spl vehicle. You have a deck
with 5 volt output at 1k ohm. You have amps
with 10k ohm input sections that you want to
drive...lets say 10 of them. Obviously their
10 paralleled input sections are going to be
in the 1 k ohm range. This is going to drop
your deck output voltage in half + or -
quite a bit. This is because the decks voltage
is 5 volt AT 1 k ohm. Often the internal
resistance of the preamp output circuitry
will dictate a varying output voltage at
different impedances. Also under a heavy
load a preamp section will be less linear
in it's frequency response. So this will
also vary with output impedance and a
impedance is given to reference this
measurement.
In other words you may have a 20 to 20k at
+ or - 1db at 100 ohms and that will get
as bad as + or - 3 db at 50 ohm. You got
a lot of things to consider.


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