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doughboy
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Hey dukk or anyone can you give me the formula on how to get what a port is tuned at. Right now I have 2 ports going into 1 box with 2 10's does that change the formula now with 2 ports? Thanks

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If you have a spec for 1 sub in a box with 1 port and then double the box volume and add another sub and port (so now everything is doubled) then it should be no problem.

I'll look for that formula, it's in my car I think........

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audioextreme
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Here you go....

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And another......

Port length = [(8466.4 * R^2) / (Vb * Fb^2)] - (1.463 * R)

R = radius of port
Vb = volume of box
Fb = tuning frequency.


(sorry I can't do fancy drwgs!)

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How accurate are these formulas. I tried to do some reverse calculation with the specs that came with my subs and I am getting number that seem to be way off. Like box sizes at 4.3cu. ft. compared to the 1.25cu.ft. the book has or port length of 40” compared to 10.24”. Or are these real generic in nature and not taking in some factors that the companies are.

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What subs are they?
Can you give us specs?

We will try to see what is wrong.

Always willing to help.

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Vega Vega 104 (10")
box vol= 1.25
port dia.=3
port length= 10.27
displacement of driver= .07cu.ft.
tuning freq.=35Hz
This should be all the stuff you need for the formula dukk has.

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Well Using Dukks Formula....
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Port length = [(8466.4 * R^2) / (Vb * Fb^2)] - (1.463 * R)
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8466.4 * 1.5^2 is 19049.4

Divide that by: (Vb * Fb^2)
1.18 * 35^2 is 1445.5

19049.4 / 1445.5 is 13.1784158

Subtract the last part:
(1.463 * R)
1.463 * 1.5 is 2.1945

And you should get 13.1784158 - 2.1945 = 10.9839 inches long for a port length.

Which is about right. You have to remember their is some play in the numbers do to the bracing volume not being accounted for the speaker manuf. gives you room for that which you are not putting in the formula. You can if you want to. Just subtract it with the speaker displacement. You will get slightly different numbers depending on how you round the decimal.

Anyway my guess is that you used 3 as the R number insted of 1.5

Hope this all helped.....


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[This message has been edited by audioextreme (edited 06-18-99).]


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yep I did use a 3 for the R. oopps just a litle over sight

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No problem man that is what we are here for...

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Hay (audioextreme) What is the Av in your equation.

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Av=Cross sectional area of the port (vent).

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The Av is the cross sectional area of the port. And Lv is the length of the port.

Dukks Formula is a lot harder to goof up.

It is my experience that when you get radicals and powers people punch them in wrong. And get confused...


And you asked about using multiple ports. In your case do as dukk said.

If you ever want to use lets say two ports for each sub. Then do the following for each sub. If you want to use 2 ports cut the volume in half. Three ports cut the box volume into three and so on. You will notice that the more ports you add the length gets longer this is to account for frictional losses. Many free programs just use the total area of the multiple ports and the overall box volume which is incorrect...

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[This message has been edited by audioextreme (edited 06-19-99).]


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Good advice guys.
Incidentally, that formula comes with a box set of Aeroports, if anyone was wondering...

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Dukk

I am honored to get your approval on porting advice.....

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Here I will put it to the top.

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[This message has been edited by capple (edited 07-08-99).]


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