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i have UEI DM383B Digital Multimeter. Can anyone explain to me how to figure the wattage coming out of my XX colossus II. Thanks in advance.

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you'll need a good clamp meter that can measure AC current.

Take a video during a burp showing both screens and then just multiply the current times the voltage and you have your power.

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can anyone help me step by step thru this. what setting do i put the volt meter on and where do i put the leads? same with the clamp. what setting and where do i put it? i did a search and couldnt find anything on it.

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Put the leads of the multimeter on the output terminals of the amp set on volts and put the ammeter around either output wire on the amp. Then hit hold max on both (if you have that feature), burp, and multiply both the voltage and current by 0.707 to get the RMS values (or you could find their product and just divide by two for power.)You will have to check the manual on this because some multimeters/ammeters can hold RMS values and some only max values.
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i tried it like you said and got 4.3 for volts and 6 for amps. i must be doing something wrong. the colossus would have to put out more than that during burps. i put volt meter leads on + to + and -to- at the speaker output terminal, and put the clamp over the + speaker wire about 2 inches out from the speaker out put terminal. what am i doing wrong ?

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One voltmeter lead should be on a positive terminal, one on a negative. The clamp will read the same on either wire since the same current going out is going in. Make sure the voltmeter is on AC current (usually just a squiggly line on the meter).
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You can't get accurate readings using peak hold on the meters. The power has to be the voltage and amperage at the same instant.

Don't worry about multiplying for RMS because most meters are RMS meters anyway. You can check by probing a household wall socket on the AC voltage setting. If it reads around 110-130v you have an rms meter.

Also when you are doing power tests, do more then one test. You may only be putting out a small amount of power.

Using the numbers of 4.3v and 6.0. Are you only using one channel of the amp or are you running the amp mono? How do you have the subs wired?

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the amp is bridged and the subs are wired to show a .75ohm

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i was on dc voltage instead of ac, but i took the clamp meter back and am now saving for a fluke

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I use flukes, great meters!

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This one's a really old thread, but could you use two DMM's and just put the test leads from one meter into the speaker wire's and then the leads from the second meter into the power and ground wires near the amp? Or do you really have to buy a clamp meter?

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On a side note not all Digital Multi Meters are True RMS Meters.

By using my Fluke DMM(not True RMS meter) and my Amprobe Clamp-on Ammeter.

My example of readings I have got are:

Volts X Current = Wattage

59.3 volts X 77.4 amps = 4,589.82 Max Wattage

Max Wattage X 0.707 = RMS Wattage

4130 / 0.707 = 2,919.91 RMS Wattage

And that is out of my 3,000watt Autotek amp.

And if you wanted to figure out imp. rise or enclosure imp. rise:

My subs are 2 each dual 2ohm subs wired in parallel. Wired down to 0.5ohms.

But in the Enclosure the imp. rise is:

Voltage / Current = Resisitance

59.3 Volts / 77.4 Amps = 0.76615 ohms

So there my enclosure imp rise is 0.26615 ohms so my amp is actually seeing a load of 0.76615 ohms not the 0.5 ohms my subs are wired at.

and this is from my Dual 2ohm Kicker Solo X subs.

I hope this helps.

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quote:
Originally posted by SPL Creator:
This one's a really old thread, but could you use two DMM's and just put the test leads from one meter into the speaker wire's and then the leads from the second meter into the power and ground wires near the amp? Or do you really have to buy a clamp meter?

you have to use a clamp meter

you are testing the current of SPEAKER wire, not 12 volt into the amp

so its a/c instead of d/c

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quote:
Originally posted by TeamSubGoPoof:
quote:
Originally posted by SPL Creator:
This one's a really old thread, but could you use two DMM's and just put the test leads from one meter into the speaker wire's and then the leads from the second meter into the power and ground wires near the amp? Or do you really have to buy a clamp meter?

you have to use a clamp meter

you are testing the current of SPEAKER wire, not 12 volt into the amp

so its a/c instead of d/c

I realize this, my DMM tests AC and DC voltages. I've already used this to check my AC voltages during burps and for finding my peak volume so I know about AC voltages in speaker wire. My question was about whether or not a DMM would give the same readings as a DMM.

Anyone know a good Fluke Clamp meter model number I should look for?

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quote:
Originally posted by SPL Creator:
quote:
Originally posted by TeamSubGoPoof:
quote:
Originally posted by SPL Creator:
This one's a really old thread, but could you use two DMM's and just put the test leads from one meter into the speaker wire's and then the leads from the second meter into the power and ground wires near the amp? Or do you really have to buy a clamp meter?

you have to use a clamp meter

you are testing the current of SPEAKER wire, not 12 volt into the amp

so its a/c instead of d/c

I realize this, my DMM tests AC and DC voltages. I've already used this to check my AC voltages during burps and for finding my peak volume so I know about AC voltages in speaker wire. My question was about whether or not a DMM would give the same readings as a DMM.

Anyone know a good Fluke Clamp meter model number I should look for?

ahh gotcha, i misread then [Smile]

If it measures a/c current accurately then it'll work just fine!

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i Like the fluke 337

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