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The_dew2000
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What kind of box would you put this 12" bad boy in?

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How about a 2.75 cube vented box tuned to 45Hz?

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how bout a 2ft. trash recepticle. i hope your kidding with this [Eek!]

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I have to disagree,i mean its not the best,but how else can Pyramid stay in business unless people buy??

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Not kidding, I'm building a sub $100 system to see how it sounds.

Kind of a Pyramid vs. Digital Designs test, cast your votes now!

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How can u actually compre those 2????????? Are u gonna cut the cone off the DD [Big Grin]
They sound about the same then [Big Grin]

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hey...by the stats the guy gives, they function A+, they LOOK A+, they're packaged in an A+ manner, have an A+ worth of "accessories", and are documented with A+ effort...hehehe...everything one looks for in "Crome" Subwoofer Subs hehehe....that's pretty funny...i'm sure they'll be fun to play with for a while...

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if I had some extra money I would love to do something like that..
sure you can buy a DD sub and it will sound good and get damn loud without any effort..
take the pyramid sub and mess around with a box for a while and you might be suprised what it can do.. if you follow the 90% install 10% equipment..

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So what sugestions to you guys have for my "it's all in the install" test? Will my idea above work out?
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quote:
Originally posted by The_dew2000:
So what sugestions to you guys have for my "it's all in the install" test? Will my idea above work out?

test the t/s of the sub (I dont know if I would trust Pyramids if they give them out.. haha)
then build a box for them..

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so do you have the DD sub already and want to compare the pyrimd too it? tho i wouldnt waste the cash. but hey its all you..... everyones gotta have thier fun. try not to blow it up. even tho i think that would be more fun if it didnt cost 100bucks.LOL
id build acouple diferent boxes to experiment with WITH THE DD sub not pyramid. but maybe thats just me

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quote:
Originally posted by DD'd GTZ:
How can u actually compre those 2????????? Are u gonna cut the cone off the DD [Big Grin]
They sound about the same then [Big Grin]

Maybe if he gives the DD 1w and the pyramind a couple hundred it might be fair...then again the pyramid might just smoke [Razz]

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You guys are all negative about anything lower-end. ALOT of people don't have alot of money for quality stereo components, and just because YOU are fortunate to be able to afford DD and all those other top end, high dollar brands doesn't mean you should snub nose anyone who even mentions "Jensen" or "Pyramid"...
Sure, it's very low end and is marketed for the masses with all the chrome and gadgets, but when installed properly, they can perform just fine for people who don't demand alot from stereos.
Just because you're loaded, rich bastards doesn't mean you can be pricks to people who come up with GOOD IDEAS. There is nothing wrong with tinkering with lower-priced subs. You might be surprised how good they can sound if the person knows what they are doing, and it's the KNOWLEDGE of the installer that matters, not how much MONEY the person makes to say "Look at me, I have too much money and all I know to do with it is spend $2K on a system."

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very well said, asauer. peace, mark
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quote:
Originally posted by asauer:
You guys are all negative about anything lower-end. ALOT of people don't have alot of money for quality stereo components, and just because YOU are fortunate to be able to afford DD and all those other top end, high dollar brands doesn't mean you should snub nose anyone who even mentions "Jensen" or "Pyramid"...
Sure, it's very low end and is marketed for the masses with all the chrome and gadgets, but when installed properly, they can perform just fine for people who don't demand alot from stereos.
Just because you're loaded, rich bastards doesn't mean you can be pricks to people who come up with GOOD IDEAS. There is nothing wrong with tinkering with lower-priced subs. You might be surprised how good they can sound if the person knows what they are doing, and it's the KNOWLEDGE of the installer that matters, not how much MONEY the person makes to say "Look at me, I have too much money and all I know to do with it is spend $2K on a system."

Okay, I agree with the first half of what you said about people bashing people with lower-end lines. But the second half about people with money. I'm sorry but just because people work there a$$es off and have money doesn't mean the have to much money. Maybe they just enjoy spending it on something they love. I'm sorry having $2K to spend on a system is not having to much money. I worked my a$$ off when I was 14-15 and was able to spend about that much when I turned 16 on my stereo. I do know a couple of the guys who posted above do like to joke. Sorry that you took it the wrong way. Okay I'm done. Later.

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quote:
Originally posted by asauer:
You guys are all negative about anything lower-end. ALOT of people don't have alot of money for quality stereo components, and just because YOU are fortunate to be able to afford DD and all those other top end, high dollar brands doesn't mean you should snub nose anyone who even mentions "Jensen" or "Pyramid"...
Sure, it's very low end and is marketed for the masses with all the chrome and gadgets, but when installed properly, they can perform just fine for people who don't demand alot from stereos.
Just because you're loaded, rich bastards doesn't mean you can be pricks to people who come up with GOOD IDEAS. There is nothing wrong with tinkering with lower-priced subs. You might be surprised how good they can sound if the person knows what they are doing, and it's the KNOWLEDGE of the installer that matters, not how much MONEY the person makes to say "Look at me, I have too much money and all I know to do with it is spend $2K on a system."

I agree that these lower end brands can be jsut what a person wants in thier audio system and I have nothing against that.

On another note....they have the ABSOLUTE same opourtunities that I do to go to school, get a well paying job, or whatever they may do to accumulate $$.

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quote:
Originally posted by scottaboshia:
quote:
Originally posted by asauer:
You guys are all negative about anything lower-end. ALOT of people don't have alot of money for quality stereo components, and just because YOU are fortunate to be able to afford DD and all those other top end, high dollar brands doesn't mean you should snub nose anyone who even mentions "Jensen" or "Pyramid"...
Sure, it's very low end and is marketed for the masses with all the chrome and gadgets, but when installed properly, they can perform just fine for people who don't demand alot from stereos.
Just because you're loaded, rich bastards doesn't mean you can be pricks to people who come up with GOOD IDEAS. There is nothing wrong with tinkering with lower-priced subs. You might be surprised how good they can sound if the person knows what they are doing, and it's the KNOWLEDGE of the installer that matters, not how much MONEY the person makes to say "Look at me, I have too much money and all I know to do with it is spend $2K on a system."

I agree that these lower end brands can be jsut what a person wants in thier audio system and I have nothing against that.

On another note....they have the ABSOLUTE same opourtunities that I do to go to school, get a well paying job, or whatever they may do to accumulate $$.

yup and the guy was comparing crap to gold...no one in their right mind would do that.

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quote:
Originally posted by asauer:
You guys are all negative about anything lower-end. ALOT of people don't have alot of money for quality stereo components, and just because YOU are fortunate to be able to afford DD and all those other top end, high dollar brands doesn't mean you should snub nose anyone who even mentions "Jensen" or "Pyramid"...
Sure, it's very low end and is marketed for the masses with all the chrome and gadgets, but when installed properly, they can perform just fine for people who don't demand alot from stereos.
Just because you're loaded, rich bastards doesn't mean you can be pricks to people who come up with GOOD IDEAS. There is nothing wrong with tinkering with lower-priced subs. You might be surprised how good they can sound if the person knows what they are doing, and it's the KNOWLEDGE of the installer that matters, not how much MONEY the person makes to say "Look at me, I have too much money and all I know to do with it is spend $2K on a system."

Blah*Blah* Don't you have a DD in your sig? [Confused] Why didn't you go out and buy a pyramid or Jensen? You don't have too much money, you just have too much free time. [Razz] [Cool]

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Okay guys, lots of replys, but no ideas for boxes! What would you guess a good box size and tune for the Pyramid sub?
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quote:
Originally posted by asauer:
Just because you're loaded, rich bastards doesn't mean you can be pricks to people who come up with GOOD IDEAS. There is nothing wrong with tinkering with lower-priced subs. You might be surprised how good they can sound if the person knows what they are doing, and it's the KNOWLEDGE of the installer that matters, not how much MONEY the person makes to say "Look at me, I have too much money and all I know to do with it is spend $2K on a system."

Yep.. us loaded rich bastards.. like myself who has worked 2 jobs while in college to save up enough cash for the car i wanted and the system I wanted.. yep.. that makes me a rich bastard.. And FYI I have spent alot more than $2K on a system.. and the knowledge is there as well and developing more and more.. but I guess that makes me a terrible person. [Roll Eyes]

You seem like a somewhat bright guy by the rest of your statement, but you should have left this part out of your opinion out of it. As you say knowledge is important. Well hopefully this with further your knowledge and you wont give in to those stereotypes that bring all of us down.

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2.5 cubes, 50 inches of vent, and say.....16 inches deep.

Seems to be a good box for alot of 12's.

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3 cube ABC box tuned to 35 hz. using 3 in. port tubing.

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quote:
Originally posted by asauer:
You guys are all negative about anything lower-end. ALOT of people don't have alot of money for quality stereo components, and just because YOU are fortunate to be able to afford DD and all those other top end, high dollar brands doesn't mean you should snub nose anyone who even mentions "Jensen" or "Pyramid"...
Sure, it's very low end and is marketed for the masses with all the chrome and gadgets, but when installed properly, they can perform just fine for people who don't demand alot from stereos.
Just because you're loaded, rich bastards doesn't mean you can be pricks to people who come up with GOOD IDEAS. There is nothing wrong with tinkering with lower-priced subs. You might be surprised how good they can sound if the person knows what they are doing, and it's the KNOWLEDGE of the installer that matters, not how much MONEY the person makes to say "Look at me, I have too much money and all I know to do with it is spend $2K on a system."

You can build an affordable system without resorting to using that low-end garbage. Most of us don't have a ton of money. We just have priorities that result in making other sacrifices so that we can get the sound quality that we crave. In my case, I'm more than willing to go without until I can get what I want. Wasting money on that intermediate garbage isn't my type of thing.

Anyway... back to my original point. Putting the $100 challenge aside, if you look at a system with a realistic finantial goal, more often than not, you can build a MUCH better system by avoiding that flea market crap and just making smarter decisions by doing more research and listening. There are some amazing bargains out there, especially now that the internet has provided exposure to smaller companies like Adire and Elemental Designs.

Get a single E10k or a single shiva, a good quality class D amp, and a good pair of coaxes to compliment your head unit. Or get 2 12" Volfenhag subs, a Volfenhag 1 million watt amp and some Sparkomatic coax speakers. Same cost, very different results.

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I'm going to add my 2 cents. I have a Pyramid amp installed in my car........It does just as well as my Pioneer 35x2 amp, if not better, and it only cost 1/3 the price.

To me, the challenge in using lower end equipment is to try and see what you can do with it. Half the fun is experimenting with different tuning, different boxes, different subs, differetc etc. Don't bash on the guy, he's just being creative, instead of discouraging him, give him a chance and try to help him.

I jusy may try out the same thing this summer.....I mean hey you can buy their stuff for cheap, why not have some fun with it?

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Could the pyramid get as loud as the DD....never. But that cheap driver can be placed in a well designed Dual Reflex bandpass and turn good #s and sound good. But on the other hand the DD can be placed in that BP and get louder. Low excursion/power handling can be over come by efficient enclosure design.
Over the weekend my buddy/mentor built a dual reflex bandpass for two $35, pioneer wa