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Xeon
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Ok, since it is impossibel to find one of these locally, has anyone heard either of these? Something just tells me to go with the idmax, but of the few i can find, theyre only dual 4 ohm, which would be a problem with my amp prefrence, the directed 1100d. I could use the MTX 8100d, im just slightly partial to Directed's line.

Here is what i have to decide upon:

1. IDMAX D4 on a MTX 8100d, avilable now
2. Crystal CMPX2 on a Directed 1100d, avilable now
3. IDMAX D2 on a Directed 1100d, avilable some time in the future.

Ive heard a whole lot more about the IDMAX, cant find much info on the crystal. Does anyone have box recommendations for either of these? (Ported vs. sealed, size of box in cu., if ported port port size and legnth)

Thanks for your help.


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i think the CMP would be more of a comparison to the IDMAX imo...

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I sorta chose them because i can get them for the same price. I had always wanted a cmpx2, but i didnt realize that idmax's were so affordable til now. Its a hard choice for me, mainly because i havent heard much about the crystal.
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Throw the new Evo-R in that mix!

The CMP X2 seems much better suited for ported enclosures as it did not fair well sealed.

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Hows the sq on the evo-r? I havent heard much about them, but that defintally fits my price range. Would the 1000 watts be too much for it? Its only rated at 600 RMS handeling. Or is amazingly efficcent and i could power it with an A5HC or MTX 6500? Thats nice that its good with sealed.

Just got my pricematch on sounddomain, i can get the Crystal for $334, wow thats tempting, i only have 14 days to decide though.


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The Evo R is Audiomobile's new super high excursion sub designed for ported enclosures. As far as power handling, my lower line Audiomobile's had no issues taking a 2000x per sub.

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quote:
Originally posted by Darkness:
i think the CMP would be more of a comparison to the IDMAX imo...


I would disagree the IDMAX is alot better that the CMP. ALso the D2 is avi. now I have one...If you want a ported box go CMPX2, the ports with the MAX are long 22'. If you want small sealed go MAX I have my in a 1.4 box with 1k watts its just crazy for one 12"


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Thanks, i think im going to get the IDMAX, if i can get it for less than 340 on ebay, even if it is D4. Ill get an MTX 8100d, ive heard great things about them, and i can get it for $350, which saves me $25 there.

Thanks for the help, just needed to find a little more enthusiam for the IDMAX i guess.


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quote:
Originally posted by Jazzy:


I would disagree the IDMAX is alot better that the CMP. ALso the D2 is avi. now I have one...If you want a ported box go CMPX2, the ports with the MAX are long 22'. If you want small sealed go MAX I have my in a 1.4 box with 1k watts its just crazy for one 12"



oh i was not saying that the CMP was better than the IDMAX...it is just a better comparison to the IDMAX than the CMPx2...CMPx2 is a massive SPL driver with a hint of the SQ from the CMP...CMP is a lot more like the Eclipse 88000s...SQL all the way...

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quote:
Originally posted by Darkness:


oh i was not saying that the CMP was better than the IDMAX...it is just a better comparison to the IDMAX than the CMPx2...CMPx2 is a massive SPL driver with a hint of the SQ from the CMP...CMP is a lot more like the Eclipse 88000s...SQL all the way...


Contrary to what you said, the cmpx2 is not just a SPL driver. It has the same SQ as the cmp12. I've had both, and put both in the same box. I couldn't tell a diff in the SQ. 1 thing I did notice is that the cmpx2 is less efficient and needed more power to get to the same loudness. If you only have 1100 watts, go with the IDMAX cuz the cmpx2 needs more power to give the Idmax competition in terms of output.


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quote:
Originally posted by Conclusive:
Throw the new Evo-R in that mix!

The CMP X2 seems much better suited for ported enclosures as it did not fair well sealed.


I thought the CMPx2 was designed for small sealed enclosures?


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I would recommend an Adire Brahma. Designed for small box applications, both sealed and ported, it has the most measured x-max of any sub. 27mm. Looks quite impressive. I don't know how it compares to the IDMAX or CMPx2, but it might be the kind of product you're looking for.

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realistically I think there is no comparison for the situation you have presented. I have heard and installed both drivers and I can assure you that with just over a 1000watts the IDMAX will crush the competition in both SQ and SPL. Plus as an added bonus the IDMAX requires you to take up less space with its box. Hands down I would say go with the IDMAX...

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I have pretty much decided to go with the idmax, hopefully ill beable to pick one up for around $340 or so, and i can get the MTX 8100d for $350. For my price range, the MTX or Fosgate BD1000.1 seems to be my only choice for 2 ohms, and i like MTX better, and have cheaper access to it. The Arc 2500 would be nice, maybe sometime if i have an extra $1000 to spend on a sub amp, but not right now.
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quote:
Originally posted by rageatm007:
...the IDMAX will crush the competition in both SQ and ...


...and WHATEVER! I'll crush your head between my fingers! I crush you!

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hehe might be kinda off topic and leeching, but how do you think 2 IDMAX's ported with a 81000D would stack up 2 a 9515 in around 5 cubes portedDD would have 1 81000D on it for now and a xtr pro 2400D later...thnx

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i thought you had to use a passive radiator to port the idmax
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quote:
Originally posted by itHRTZ:
i thought you had to use a passive radiator to port the idmax

Naww you can use ports. If you want a all out spl box 2.5 ft (per sub) with two 5x5x22 ports (per sub) that info from ID....


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quote:
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...and WHATEVER! I'll crush your head between my fingers! I crush you!


I AM CRUSHING YOUR HEAD.. ya little flathead...ahh...

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