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Blunt
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Ok,
I know this has been asked before, but I need to find out what the deal is before I make a mistake.

I want to have 2 Yellowtops in my car, one to start it, and a second to help juice up my PHD2.

I drew a little diagram to help show what I'm trying to say...
If the 2 batteries are exactly the same, could I just connect the one under the hood to the one in my trunk? Then, take a wire from the one in the trunk to my amp??

would this work?

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edit that pick to draw in what your gon'do with neg/pos

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you are going to have to run a ground to second battery or it will not charge.

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yes that'd work (ps.. i know you know where to put this question! hehe)

just run a power wire to the back. connect it to the + on the 2nd batt, ground the 2nd batt, then feed the phd2 off the 2nd batts posts..

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Blunt
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I re-did the image, how's this:




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Blunt
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Do I want to connect the negative terminal on the amp to the frame of the car, or to the negative terminal on the second battery?

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quote:
Originally posted by Blunt:
Do I want to connect the negative terminal on the amp to the frame of the car, or to the negative terminal on the second battery?

It shouldn't matter, but personally I'd connect it to the battery. Every little helps.

Colin

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quote:
Originally posted by Blunt:
I re-did the image, how's this:



Also, run a larger power wire from the alternator. Other than that, looks damn fine.

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Blunt
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Thanks guys!!

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Ok good diagram and all but where are your fuses???

I WOULD NOT run 2 wires + and - to the second battery! I would just run the power wire back IT WILL CHARGE...

All of your diagrams look the same to me... whats wrong? did you change anythin? maybe its my comp? who knows?


Think how will the front battery or the rear battery ground itself if they are connected? by negative terminals?

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Ok think about wiring up a cap... Would you run a negative wire back from the front battery? No you would ground the cap seperately...

When upgrading the wire from the alt I was advised nothing heavier than 4 gauge cause the 2 gauge will let too much current go through getting the wire too hot too fast or some bull? Who knows? I'm no professional but I try... And ask questions and help give answers as best to my ability...

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Blunt
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quote:
Originally posted by BassFromTheKrypt:
Ok think about wiring up a cap... Would you run a negative wire back from the front battery? No you would ground the cap seperately...



When you ground it separately it's still coming from the frame of the car, so it's coming from the starter battery just indirectly. Everything grounded goes to the same frame right?


Good point about the alternator to battery wire, is there a size limit for a stock 80A alt?

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Blunt
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quote:
Originally posted by BassFromTheKrypt:
Ok good diagram and all but where are your fuses??? Good question, where should I put fuses and how big?


All of your diagrams look the same to me... whats wrong? did you change anythin? maybe its my comp? who knows?

I edited the first image online, so it replaced the original image.


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GO BLUNT!

THATS RIGHT!

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quote:
Originally posted by BassFromTheKrypt:
When upgrading the wire from the alt I was advised nothing heavier than 4 gauge cause the 2 gauge will let too much current go through getting the wire too hot too fast or some bull...

just like with power wire for an amp....bigger is better
if u have the 4 gauge and have a whole sh** load of current.....it will heat up cause of the size.....if u take the same amount of current and run it through the 2 gauge it will not heat up because of the size of wire
basicly if the wire is too small it acts like a resistor and restricts current flow thus causing it to heat up
good example of this is tryin to feed a D2 with 10 gauge wire over 10 feet long....that wire is gonna be HOT

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what about a isolater, or a solenoid?

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quote:
Originally posted by Team OX:
what about a isolater, or a solenoid?

I was under the impression that isolaters are only necessary if the batteries are different, right?

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quote:
Originally posted by Blunt:

I was under the impression that isolaters are only necessary if the batteries are different, right?

i believe u r right
they will work fine if they r the same

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An isolator will also keep the amps from discharging both batteries. The isolator will allow the alternator to charge both batteries but only allow the amp or amps to draw current from one battery.
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Blunt
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Well since I'll be running a D2 for now, I'll be ok right?

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yes blunt you are ok. you dont need an isolator. just dont play it with the engine off for very long. and if you only have the stock-factory alternator in the vehicle there is no reason to upgrade the alternator to battery wire either, that wire is already sufficient....
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quote:
Originally posted by timmi:
yes blunt you are ok. you dont need an isolator. just dont play it with the engine off for very long. and if you only have the stock-factory alternator in the vehicle there is no reason to upgrade the alternator to battery wire either, that wire is already sufficient....

sounds good, thanks for the info man!

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Everyone in here gets 5 stars from me, thanks for all the tips!

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