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I bought all my equipment for my street a car over the last 2 months. All I got to do is build a box. But now seeing Street a allows quads and unlimited amps, forget it.
quote:Originally posted by Soundteam Painer-Thomas: I cannot understand the discussion about Street B. For me it is not important if i can use 4 or 2 amps. 2004 is started with 2xSPL Dyn. EXT 3000. These are the most powerful amps from SPL Dynamics for Street Classes. But the amps cannot give the power which they could do because there is to less power from the batterie. So it has no sense for me to put in 2 further amps! Therefore i have no problem with the new Street rules!
thomas this is what I have been trying to say.
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quote:Originally posted by KAL SPL: unlimited amps but only 2 conductors , so still 1 cheater amp or 2 strapable amps. Quads makes no difference.
The conductor rule will only give certain amps an advantage. Amps like the SPL-D 3000 will murder the street classes.
I say if this is going to happen, lift the conductor rule also, so anyone can get four cheap strappable class d amp and still have a chance. If not, watch the T3000 and SPL-D's own every class.
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The conductor rule will only give certain amps an advantage. Amps like the SPL-D 3000 will murder the street classes.
what he ^^^ said
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We donīt need new rules. Many people owns or already bought their equipment for the new season. The last rules were okay. Only the Street Max should be modified a little bit. It would be tremendous to change the rules every year. So dbdrag will lose more and more competitors...... f.ex. because you have to change your setup every year.
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I dont remember seeing crx's dominating the circuit last year? Good yes, the end all spl vehicle I dont think so, I took down one or two...
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Would anybody think 4 RF bd 1500's run off 1 batt at 0.5 ohm ? People who know the amp know the current draw .
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No, I know the problems with 2 T30001 @ 0.35 Ohms with a Stinger SP1700. Unforunately.......... NO RULE CHANGES - only little change in Street MAX which should be closer definied to Street - class
I really donīt want that the Street A,B,C class will definied completely new.... i donīt want to buy new equipment or a new car due tue the new rules.
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Wel , i did . It was 156.1 db , and that was right after we did the 154.2 with the calibers . So ad one more db we gained afterwords . It works !! We even ran 4 ext 2000 on 1 batt , it where not our amps otherwise we would go low on impedance .
Give me 4 x 3000 watt amps , i will have it working .
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Personally I like the ability to have 2 strappable amps compete with a larger amp. However I still think there should be some limit to put that back into the 3000 watt range for A, and 6000 for B, instead of 6000 for A and B, and 12000 for C. Really other than woofers, with this rule, you're going to have the same type of power in A and B, which is limited by batteries.
If "unlimited" is what's happening to amps, then why not do the same with woofers, and only limit the street classes by batteries, two classes 1 batt in A and 2 in B. I thought A was made to have a class below B in power, woofers and cost. With this rule, cost is essentially the same in A and B. This is better than continuing last year's rules (everyone in A buys a Crown), but, not the right direction to go.
If we want to get more people involved, it should be EASIER to compete, instead of harder and more expensive. Face it, this sport is struggling and this change is going to loose a lot of smaller beginning competitors, and make the jump from a beginner class (ministreet, USAC basic stock) harder.
I understand Wayne's and the judges' logic on this one, allow multiple smaller amps compete with a larger one so that people do not have to purchase a large expensive amplifier. HOWEVER, shouldn't we be trying to effect a limit on that larger amp and keep power levels where they are instead of trying to make having more power mandatory.
I will do my best to compete regardless of the rules, but in my opinion, this is not the direction to go. I will think about an effective, simple way to have this happen, but as of right now, this is not acceptable, something different needs to be done.
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quote:Originally posted by Chmielewski: No, I know the problems with 2 T30001 @ 0.35 Ohms with a Stinger SP1700. Unforunately.......... NO RULE CHANGES - only little change in Street MAX which should be closer definied to Street - class
I really donīt want that the Street A,B,C class will definied completely new.... i donīt want to buy new equipment or a new car due tue the new rules.
What Street class do you compete in??? What do you think needs to be changed in Street Max?
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I think street classes should stay the same, think about how much money you'd have spend already to do 150's in street, I know if the rules change I most likely won't be competing next year.
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I compete in Street B (last season I had 2 T20001 @ 0.35 and one 15" Team. I didnīt have problems with the voltage. But now I bought 2 T30001 - forget it @ 0.35 Ohms and one battery it may works with a lot of power wires and higher R.F. of the car (> 60 Hertz)
I think in the Street Max you shouldnīt have a big wall like in the SuperStreet. At the end of the last season some Street-Max competitors used foam (i hope you know what i mean - extreme damping material). That shouldnīt be allowed to use, too.....
quote:Originally posted by dblover3: Im seeing some tension from those CRX owners. What would happen if CRX's ruled no more.
THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN...
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quote:Originally posted by Wayne Harris: If we leave the amp limit in place, then monster amps will ulitmately rule at Finals.
I agree,and from a financial standpoint ,the single monster amps are more expensive than multiple strappable amplifiers. there's going to be a limit anyway if the conductor rule stays intact. no amp limit no controversies. gotta watch out for those manufactuers that will design conductors "WITHIN" conductors
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quote:Originally posted by THE-SCRAPER: I agree,and from a financial standpoint ,the single monster amps are more expensive than multiple strappable amplifiers. there's going to be a limit anyway if the conductor rule stays intact. no amp limit no controversies. gotta watch out for those manufactuers that will design conductors "WITHIN" conductors
I agree with the financial standpoint. But, if the conductor rule stays in place also, we all know which amps are gonna be loudest. I say if we have no limit on amps, then also ditch the conductor rule so smaller strappable amps can have a place to be very competitive.
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also i thought street max was a walled class but for street ,for those who couldnt afford ss type system , with multi batteries ,so now what pay to have it ripped out and built to what, weight is a issue for my daily driver so many battteries cant be installed ,please address this issue
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quote:Originally posted by THE-SCRAPER: I agree,and from a financial standpoint ,the single monster amps are more expensive than multiple strappable amplifiers. there's going to be a limit anyway if the conductor rule stays intact. no amp limit no controversies. gotta watch out for those manufactuers that will design conductors "WITHIN" conductors
I agree with the financial standpoint. But, if the conductor rule stays in place also, we all know which amps are gonna be loudest. I say if we have no limit on amps, then also ditch the conductor rule so smalle
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