Since Scott, Kyle, Mike , Team Loud etc are so damned loud, why dont we have a class with like Street A rules on equipment and extreme rules on the build.
This would alow people to work their a$$ off on the vehicle and would only have to worry about a little amount of expense on equipment (relitively speeking)
Thoughts.....?????
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I would be all for it, I only have 4 subs, 4 amps, and 10 batteries as it is! I can drop 2 amps, and only lose .5 db!
Would definitely open the door for new competitors possibly with lower budgets?
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I like the idea but there are a lot of aspects of the class that has to be considered before making another extreme class because lets face it extreme can not even get the brackets full now. But Bobby I do like the idea and I think there should be some thought into it before it is either done or put on the back burner.
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I think its a great idea. It should be limited to one amplifier total, with no more than 200 amps of current draw. just check the current draw going to the one amp... If its under 200 amps, then it fits the class....I think you should be able to run as many subs as you like, 1 or 50... as long as the amplifier current draw doesn't go over 200 amps. All other extreme rules apply.
quote:Originally posted by ea1: I think its a great idea. It should be limited to one amplifier total, with no more than 200 amps of current draw. just check the current draw going to the one amp... If its under 200 amps, then it fits the class....I think you should be able to run as many subs as you like, 1 or 50... as long as the amplifier current draw doesn't go over 200 amps. All other extreme rules apply.
you could police this like meca rules....must have fuses within 18'' of the amps and no more than 200 amps of fusing
if this class came to be i would personally build an extreme car, because i mean lets face it...no matter how much money you have without a 100% sponsership theres no way to come close to team loud or scottie....having to buy 13 1200 dollar 12s and 52 2000 dollar amps....just isn't practical....but only having to buy 2 decent amps maybe 10 batteries and a pair of subs wouldn't put a dent in the pocket.
Also i believe this class would open the door up for more creative installs....if this class comes to be i'll have 2 vehicles next season
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the extreme cheap class aka ex 1 had the least amount of competitors in any of the extreme classes. i am going to have to show my disapproval for this idea. but i am glad to see that bobby is thinking outside the box.
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I was thinking the same thing about the fuses, but I think we would have to have a specified fuse 'sponsor' that everyone has to use this exact fuse on the power leading from the batts to the amp(not all brands 200a fuse will handle the same current). Only drawback is some people MAY try to tamper with the fuses to increase the current capacity. The best bet would be for judges to carry clamp on ammeters and check the current draw during the run... along with the voltage.
I think this class would be FULL, I wouldn't be surprised to see so decent numbers out of this class also.
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Hate it! I got my a@# handed to me at finals by Mike, but he deserved it! hes been at it a while and it was his time to step up and take gold!! But I'm not gonna cry or any crap like that!! I got home from finals mon. night at 3:30 am , and went to the shop on tues. and started tearing out the inside of the van for the bandpass!! I'm gonna try to bring it out at Daytona and tear some heads off, ""BUT"" if i cant I'll just regroup again till i get it right!!!! I dont want any kind of ""EASIER"" trophy... I feel like if i bust my a@# and ever beat Mike ,, then and only then have i accomplished something!! Just some words from a rookie!
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I agree with Lee.we only started playing with the banpass in my van in June,and really just dicked around with it until September.I think scott and teamloud's numbers are within reach for anybody if they work on it.I only have a small investment in money spent and equip.used and already at 174? I would rather keep classes as is than make another MECA.In fact, both Mike Bartels and i have rewired our vans at the shows to compete under meca rules anyway.my point is this class already exists and its called radical X 1. i dont think we need another one.
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I like this idea Bobby. It could be kinda like the Super Mod 0-1000 class in USACi. This class is practical for my budget and the fact that USACi has alot of shows in our area helps as well. I can say that after going to usaci finals this year, and db drag last year, if dB drag had more shows in the area and an affordable class like this I'd definitly choose it over anything usaci has to offer.
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i agree with jared and tim, we already have a cheap extreme spl class and the number that team loud is doing is achievable , just got spend time , tim keep up the good work i seee good numbers in your future coming ,
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but look at the equipment their using to achieve the scores in ex 2 i think its 2 9917 neos and 8 spl dynamics 6000s.....thats real cheap lol
lets say to be competitive in ex 1, and we'll go the cheap way.....1 mt 18 and 4 american bass 200.1s, retail on the mt 18 is a grand, and then 2 grand in retail on the amps....
thats 3k in equipment, then lets take into account resin and sand for the baffles the dash the console and everything else, your talking 10-15k in a vehicle including windows.....then another 3k in equipment + a tow vehicle and trailer.....around 30/35 grand for the cheapest ex class.
But if we had this class 1 mt 12 or 1 DD 9512 used for 400 dollars, 1 4000d used for 600 bucks or so, plus the vehicles wouldn't have to be as heavy so you don't need a huge truck and trailer, you just redunced from 35 grand to 15 grand....i'm all for it
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this sounds very familar!! while were at it lets have a class for every different car made, that way everybody gets a trophy, even if they didnt work for it!! LOL...its not satisfing unless you beat the loud man!!, not run from him!!
And on the money side of it...I did alot of talking to other extreme competitors, and they all said one thing alike,,,,"its very expensive, and alot of work" But if i couldnt afford to compete in extreme, i wouldnt be in it!! Every competitor has that choice. Ive never known extreme to be a ""cheap"" class to compete in! Hell the materials for my new build are gonna cost over $4000, and i hate that, but its the game i ""CHOSE" to play, so now i gotta pay.
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Adding extreme classes with street equipt rules would be fun! but it won't be cost effective for Extreme 1,or 2 competitors,they would spent the same amount of time and money on an Extreme A,B,or C type classes.There's not big difference in coSt between a 18,15,12,and 10in sub.It would definitely be cost effective for the ones who choose to step down from Ext 5+ and Ext 3-4 classes.
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I think it will be the same...... who is currently loud will be loud again..... with such a decision would make the way free for some other competitors with lower budget and have more competitors in that classes (maybe)
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I want to know who is going to get Team Louds Ext 1 score? I keep hearing that its with in reach and 1 person barley broke a 170. Our Ext2 score is only as loud as there Ext 1. NOT saying no one can do it but Who is going to do it?
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quote:Originally posted by boommerextreme: Our Ext2 score is only as loud as there Ext 1. NOT saying no one can do it but Who is going to do it?
Consider this, their extreme 1 has more cone area than the loudest US guy in extreme 2. Also consider that their extreme 1 probably has more power.
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