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Terry Jackson
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what i do know is that without dismantling hte amplifier which none of the judges did, there is no way to tell if it is 2 amps or 1.

I alos know that if it is dismantled that it is not 2 amps.


i also know that Wayne has said Judges one cannot alkl be qualified to tell by looking at an amp if it is multiple amps or not. I alos know that Wayne feels there are more valuable things the judges can do and look at rather making a decision on an amplifier.

Hence the post i made

If it looks like one amp it is one amp

If it looks like 2 amps its two amps.

As i said before it is simple.

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damn my typing/spelling skills suck

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hmmm no replies....

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i believe they were presented with a dismentled ampflidier, here is the pic of the amp judges could look at and examine
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this pic is from finals.

I would like for u to tell me what the judges based their decision on?

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2006 Street A - 152.7 Certified
2007 Street C - 154.8 Certified
2007 Street A - 154.4 Certified
2008 Street C - 156.3 Certified
2008 Street B - 156.6 Certified

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Tinted
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judges are not qualified to say if its one amp or two??? what kind of qualification do u need? its common sense, in that pic u can tell its two boards

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2007 Street C - 154.8 Certified
2007 Street A - 154.4 Certified
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2008 Street B - 156.6 Certified

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they see two boards....

but one board will not work by itself.


and thats why wayne has simplified the amp issue

" if it looks like one amp it is one amp"

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Not one of dbdrags judges with exception of maybe wayne.....has any formal education as an amp designer or amp tech that i know of. how could they by just looking at an amplifier be qualified to tell me if it is one amp or 2?

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one board not working without the other is a good point

ok where can i buy a pair of collusus amps and how much?

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2007 Street A - 154.4 Certified
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2008 Street B - 156.6 Certified

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check the market place

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hehehe already did brother, nothing there

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2007 Street C - 154.8 Certified
2007 Street A - 154.4 Certified
2008 Street C - 156.3 Certified
2008 Street B - 156.6 Certified

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hit me on AIM candyblue200 i got somehting else to talk to you about

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Looks like 10 amps to me BANED IT!! LOL I like the new rules they Kick ass!!

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you guys broke the warranty seal on my amp and now its out of warranty........haha

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^^^ LOL^^^ Dot blame us you know that Boss 1000 is 2 boards. LOL

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actually that amp appears to have 7 boards [Smile]

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I was right there the entire two or so hours it took to rule on Terrys Collosus. I defended Terry and argued that the amp was okay for multiple reasons. Anyway, the 10+ or so judges had to make a decision. The decison came out as no.

I talked to them and asked what the final reasoning was on the 'no', it was that there was a gap in the middle of the PCB. If there was no gap, the amp would be okay. It was a difficult decision as everyone there saw, so most were content of the group judge ruling. At least they discussed it rather than being closed minded.

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quote:
Originally posted by Terry Jackson:
damn my typing/spelling skills suck

I had to use my secret decoder ring to understand your initial post.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wayne Harris:
quote:
Originally posted by Terry Jackson:
damn my typing/spelling skills suck

I had to use my secret decoder ring to understand your initial post.
LMAO ........had too much going on in my head when i typed it originally and when i went back to read it i was "man i suck" and figured i would leave so people could laugh....

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Trying to make a determination as whether an amp is one or 2 amps based on internal construction is full of pitfalls.

When I first got into this industry I worked as an engineering assistant at Orion. We made an amp called the 280. It was a stereo amp about 10 inches long. Later, we introduced the 2350. It was also a 2 channel amp. It was a little more than twice as long as the 280. It contained two each of the 280 boards and a third board which included a bridging module and some other signal processing circuitry. At the time, this was the most economical way to make a more powerful 2 channel amp. No new parts (other than the briding module) were required. We did not make this amp to get around a particular rule in some soundoff organization. It was simply the quickest and most elegant way to produce a new, higher powered amp for the least amount of money and the least amount of time. I believe it was a sound business decision.

The point here is that we cannot use the PC board metric to determine amp quantity. There are legitimate engineering and manufacturing concerns related to the use of multiple PC boards.

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Wayne i have one of those 2350 amps here and it is still in working condition...... its a beauty......


Oh and counting pc boards is for the birds.

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