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in my opinion, the meca/iasca word finals went very well and was a very good idea from the beginning. it made me wish that i had competed in the one iasca show that was in my area this year so that maybey i coulda gotten invited for iasca aswell.
it was alot cheaper to transort a competition vehicle to one location for two world finals.
it was alot cheaper to pay for hotel expenses for one weekend vs two.
it was alot better for families who only had to spend this expense once to take care of two different shows. the list goes on.
my question/proposal is, since usac and dbdrag have a long history together, why not let the two companies host thier finals at the same time, same place, kansas city MO?
in the beginning, there was always a 3x dbdrag at usac finals anyway. just make it a 4x
usac and dbdrag have been working together closley again, and better than ever i might add.
competitors, like myself, who compete in one format, and not the other, will be more encouraged to participate if world finals will be held together. that is one of my mistakes.
all of the above listed benefits from the iasca/meca world finals in one trip can be enjoyed by everyone.
central location? it doesn't get more central than kansas city, MO. i would gladly drive 6-8 extra hours each way if i could get dbdrag and usac knocked out in one trip.
honestly, i can't see any downsides to this idea. i know some of you will come up with some, but thats what a discussion forum is for.
just think of it like this. for most of you who went to dbdrag world finals, imagine if you only had to spend the extra money for usac registration fee's, instead of paying for a whole additional weekend of driving, hotel fee's registration fee's, even food.
and most of all, i think it will help our sport by encouraging competitors from one format to get involved in the other. why not when world finals will be right there together for both?
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I think it is a good Idea even though I dont compete Usaci. I think I said this somewere before.
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i don't compete iasca, but the fact that meca finals and iasca finals were together really made me wish i had. and i have every intention to compete in iasca this year. hopefully at sbn!
i think this idea will make others consider other formats aswell.
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At SVR this year 5 sanctioning bodies were present. DB Drag, Usaci, Iasca, Slap, Meca. I competed in all 5 sanctioning bodies, 8 dif events. I brought home 8 trophies. Yes I had a blast. Yes I think it is a great idea to have multiple sanctioning bodies working together at shows. Big advantages for everybody involved when we start talking $$$. Great idea Geo-X
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plus, i do believe it acually works out cheaper for multiple formats to go in on one location than for one format to fit the bill for a location by themselves. correct me if i'm wrong.
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There was talk at the beginning of the season to combine, USACi, MECA, IASCA, and DB Drag for finals. Slowly one by one each org pulled away until it was just IASCA and MECA left.
Whatever the reasons are/were, I really wish they would get back together. The car audio industry is not big enough to make manufacturers and competitors choose which finals to attend. Making people choose is simply costing everyone to much.
My gut tells me though that history, $$$ and ego, will continue to keep the orgs from combining.
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Understand that all of the sanctioning bodies are businesses and if there is not enough $$$ involved then it is not a good business decision. Too many decisions that lead to loss of income = out of business. Tis a delicate balance between making things appealing for competitors and making enough $ to pay the bills and for businesses.
Now if show attendances were up and there was $ to be made it might be easier to get this kind of "multi sanctioned event" to take place.
Just the opinion of a competitor and business owner(not audio related business)
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personally, i will not go to kansas city mo.....i qualified for finals in all 4 orgs (drag, usaci, meca, and iasca) only ended up competing in drag cause car was incomplete for meca and iasca.
I will not go to kansas city because of the crime rate, a guy got his truck rig and show car stolen when he went into a hotel....thats VERY sad.
If we could have say a joint finals somewhere else i'm all for it, but if its in the crime capitol of the world i think im gonna have to find another hobby.
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i go to meca for meca comps and iasca for iasca comps,i dont see any problem with combining them for finals,i dont like the idea of having both of them at one comp as they did this season,
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This is a great idea Gene. I'd love it if it could happen. Especially if it was in KC. Then I'd get to meet some of the drag guys.
quote:Originally posted by TeamSubGoPoof: If we could have say a joint finals somewhere else i'm all for it, but if its in the crime capitol of the world i think im gonna have to find another hobby.
So drive 10min south to where the crime rate is next to nothing.
Heck, I don't drive a flashy car, but it's something people would steal. I'll admit it, it does scream steal me. I'm not afraid to leave it there, I don't see a big deal.
What happened at USACi finals last year, could have happened anywhere. If that's your excuse to not come to finals so be it. I won't miss you.
Yeah KC has a high crime rate, but so does Nashville. And as funny as this sounds, some people think New York has a high crime rate, but they actually have one of, if not the lowest crime per capita, in big cities, in the country.
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I thought having MECA/IASCA at the same location was great. I would not have been able to go to all 3 finals (MECA IASCA and db Drag) if they were all held at different locations. If db Drag and USAC were to hold their finals at the same time I would start competing in USAC as well.
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i think this is a great idea. and i would be more intrested in competing in other org's if the finals were in the same place. I have a good job. but i can't afford to take of 4 weekends to go to all the different world finals. I belive the attendence would be much greater if they were combined
quote:Originally posted by cavi_in_kc: This is a great idea Gene. I'd love it if it could happen. Especially if it was in KC. Then I'd get to meet some of the drag guys.
quote:Originally posted by TeamSubGoPoof: If we could have say a joint finals somewhere else i'm all for it, but if its in the crime capitol of the world i think im gonna have to find another hobby.
So drive 10min south to where the crime rate is next to nothing.
Heck, I don't drive a flashy car, but it's something people would steal. I'll admit it, it does scream steal me. I'm not afraid to leave it there, I don't see a big deal.
What happened at USACi finals last year, could have happened anywhere. If that's your excuse to not come to finals so be it. I won't miss you.
Yeah KC has a high crime rate, but so does Nashville. And as funny as this sounds, some people think New York has a high crime rate, but they actually have one of, if not the lowest crime per capita, in big cities, in the country.
i don't recall saying "o please mr cavi in kc please please love me and let me come to your city."
I'm not going somewhere when i park my truck it gets stolen.....the past 2 or 3 years its happend, people getting their cars broke into and equipment stolen, vehicles getting stolen, theres no point in having a unified finals, which would be over 1000 show/spl cars and having to worry about equipment coming up missing....
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ok m. thornton, point well taken. maybey that point never came across my mind because i am used to high crime areas because i live in one.
i don't want this post to turn into an arguement over one negative point. lets move on to other points of why or why not to have a unified finals. thank you for your input.
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i can remember going to shows like the steel valley regional and the campout in PA and seeing the usac shows there. i was tempted to compete in the usac shows aswell,and at first, i figured "why not, it's right here?". but then i remembered that for me, competing at shows ultimatly leads to me going to their world finals and i knew that i could not afford to go to a 3rd world finals all within a month of eachother. so, that was the deciding factor for me not to go ahead and compete at the usac shows. but, if i knew at the beginning of the season that dbdrag and usac had their world finals unified into one building/location, i would have been competing in usac aswell. because i know that i can afford both world finals if they are in the same trip.
i feel that if we discuss this NOW, and there is a discision made in enough time for spring break, i bet you there will be a difference made in attendance at both shows. i bet you'll see usac guys in dbdrag and more draggers in usac. i just hope that wayne and ralph see these posts and are encouraged to do something about it.
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have you guys ever thought about what kind building it would take to hold usaci and dbdrag world finals together?? it would have to be bigger then the two seperate places they were at this year. couple hundred cars 50-60 venders then plus all the stuff that goes on like the bikini contest and hop offs and the rest of the stuff like that it would have to be some where like where sema is or maybe bigger. my point is i dont think we could find a building in a location that everyone would be happy.
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I have not heard of anything being stolen this weekend. KC is a great city. Bartle Hall is perfect for a unified finals.
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usaci stepped up the security to 24 hours in each area, so i know crime wasnt a biggie this year. i thought it was a great gesture by usaci to do this.
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