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For the last two days we have been doing an investigation involving car stereo. The criminals will order a large amount of product and pay via COD. ($6,000 and $4,000) As you guessed the cashier's check is fake or forged. The reason it is working is because the truck driver often does not even take a second look at the check. If you retailer's get a large COD order be very cautious! The two in question were shipped from CA to a fake business in Apex NC. The driver was met in the parking lot by the target's in front of a "For Lease" business.
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Chad's saying that they are shipping equipment to a strip mall and give a vacant store number as a reference. The "shop owners" sit in the parking lot to wait for the delivery truck to show up to the strip mall. The driver may ask why the store is empty and the owners could simply reply with "we're not opened for business just yet".
quote:Originally posted by JeremyD: No offense, but if you have a delivery address to some real location, how is it that you cannot find who is responsible?
Read Vega S10'S reply.
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quote:Originally posted by VegaS10: Chad's saying that they are shipping equipment to a strip mall and give a vacant store number as a reference. The "shop owners" sit in the parking lot to wait for the delivery truck to show up to the strip mall. The driver may ask why the store is empty and the owners could simply reply with "we're not opened for business just yet".
Happens with other types of business's as well.
If they are not actually the holder of the property, how do they know when the delivery is coming? They must have some info, a phone number, a contact address, etc.
And do the drivers not get suspicous dropping off equipment in front of a store when the door is locked and the "store owners" cant get in?
All it takes is a little common sense to avoid such a scam....
quote:Originally posted by VegaS10: Chad's saying that they are shipping equipment to a strip mall and give a vacant store number as a reference. The "shop owners" sit in the parking lot to wait for the delivery truck to show up to the strip mall. The driver may ask why the store is empty and the owners could simply reply with "we're not opened for business just yet".
Happens with other types of business's as well.
If they are not actually the holder of the property, how do they know when the delivery is coming? They must have some info, a phone number, a contact address, etc.
And do the drivers not get suspicous dropping off equipment in front of a store when the door is locked and the "store owners" cant get in?
All it takes is a little common sense to avoid such a scam....
All it takes is a little common sense to see how its possible. Since when do you need a key to a place of business to type in a tracking number to know when a delivery is coming too any address you ask something to be sent to?
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I think the US should adopt a law saying if your caught stealing more than 500$ worth of something you get a hand cut off or something. Yes its extreme but the thefts that dont learn from there mistakes wont be takin anythin anytime soon, as they'd only be able to steal 2 times(well if they get caught the 1st 2 times).
YEs its extreme but it would solve all our car theft problems and everything everyone worries about /
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Is'nt transhipping stealing? So should all these websites that sell unauthorized products stealing as well!
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quote:Originally posted by VegaS10: Chad's saying that they are shipping equipment to a strip mall and give a vacant store number as a reference. The "shop owners" sit in the parking lot to wait for the delivery truck to show up to the strip mall. The driver may ask why the store is empty and the owners could simply reply with "we're not opened for business just yet".
Happens with other types of business's as well.
If they are not actually the holder of the property, how do they know when the delivery is coming? They must have some info, a phone number, a contact address, etc.
And do the drivers not get suspicous dropping off equipment in front of a store when the door is locked and the "store owners" cant get in?
All it takes is a little common sense to avoid such a scam....
All it takes is a little common sense to see how its possible. Since when do you need a key to a place of business to type in a tracking number to know when a delivery is coming too any address you ask something to be sent to?
Bingo!
Also, Conclusive (Chad) is a police officer (i believe). So he is just WARNING all the business owners on here of something that is occuring. He has not been tricked, but is trying to HELP others from being tricked.
That is the point of his post !
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quote:Originally posted by VegaS10: Chad's saying that they are shipping equipment to a strip mall and give a vacant store number as a reference. The "shop owners" sit in the parking lot to wait for the delivery truck to show up to the strip mall. The driver may ask why the store is empty and the owners could simply reply with "we're not opened for business just yet".
Happens with other types of business's as well.
If they are not actually the holder of the property, how do they know when the delivery is coming? They must have some info, a phone number, a contact address, etc.
And do the drivers not get suspicous dropping off equipment in front of a store when the door is locked and the "store owners" cant get in?
All it takes is a little common sense to avoid such a scam....
All it takes is a little common sense to see how its possible. Since when do you need a key to a place of business to type in a tracking number to know when a delivery is coming too any address you ask something to be sent to?
Im not trying to piss anyone off....
But thats not true...
Maybe you use different shipping companies, but the best estimate I've ever been able to get on when to expect delivery is simply what day its coming.
But on the continued theme of common sense, lets say you drive a delivery truck. You deliver some multi-thousand dollar equipment to two guys standing in a parking lot. They take the merchandise and sit it on the ground until you drive away. You dont find it suspicious that they dont bring it in? That should be a dead ringer to anyone with a brain that something is not right.
All I'm saying is that common sense, not on the part of the dealers as they are doing nothing wrong, but on the part of the delivery companies, can easily put a stop to such things.
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It's not the Truck drivers responiblity to with hold the items. His job is just to drop it off and take the check.
Don't bring the driver into this. He's just the messanger that's being shot once again.
Then again it sounds like a good scam for a business to pull too. You got stuff laying on shelfs not selling. Might as well do a little insurance fraud if they can't be traced.
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This is a very easy scam to do. There are several strip malls in my area. AllI have to do is go get the business number off the front door and place an order over the phone. When I call (using a prepay, untraceable phone) I ask for a call back with tracking numbers. I call the trucking company and ask them when they expect to deliver.
Simply tell them that the lease isn't complete yet, and we'll be picking everything up in a Ford van. To make it easier, throw a few audio stickers on the front door, maybe even a "CLOSED" sign for good measure. We'll have a cashier's check or whatever in hand. Tell them we'll be there around 5 or so, and we'll see them then.
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Also beware of CC Fraud.... They use TTY for deaf order 6/8 headunits sometimes only 1. CC goes thru you get auth code no signature.... there is the problem. Shipped UPS... FEDS, STATE POLICE do nothing. CC company charges you back plus processing fees.
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quote:Originally posted by JeremyD: Im not trying to piss anyone off....
But thats not true...
Maybe you use different shipping companies, but the best estimate I've ever been able to get on when to expect delivery is simply what day its coming.
Actually it is true. The criminals know that the driver gets into to town at 9:00 AM. They also know a next day delivery should occur before 10:30 AM. In this case they had targeted the truck driver and knew he would be "in the area" at 10:15 to 10:45. Not a long time to wait for $4,000 worth of gear. OK Mariner, Im a Drugs and Vice detective by trade, but the Property guys needed help this week.
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We've had the deaf link call us before, and guy tried to order a couple of dvd players from us. I told the relay station, i do no shipping sales, have to come to store, when i said that the person hung up. I asked the relay operator if she could tell me where the call was coming from, she said it was internet based and had no way of telling the origin of the call. She did let me speak to a supervisor and i explained that this has been a problem with this person or persons trying to scam using the internet and phone system. They seemed interested and said they would possibly look into it if others complain about it. So if you get one of these calls again, talk to the relay supervisor and pursue it.
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Yup, same thing happened at my store, a TTY service called me and some deaf guy said he wanted 50 sony radios. Now what in the world would someone who cant hear want with that many radios. I knew right off the batt it was a scam, so i told the guy i would hook him up real nice if he came into the store. He wouldnt do it because he said his inability to hear prohibitted him from driving. I would have loved to bust him. And as far as the whole driver scam goes, whenever i order from a company over that much in dollars, they dont just send it. Many red flags go up. Whatever company would just send thatmuch out on a whim to someone theyve never done business with is retarded. With all of my vendors, we have account numbers and pw's to prevent things like that.
quote:Originally posted by TeK 23: It's not the Truck drivers responiblity to with hold the items. His job is just to drop it off and take the check.
Don't bring the driver into this. He's just the messanger that's being shot once again.
Then again it sounds like a good scam for a business to pull too. You got stuff laying on shelfs not selling. Might as well do a little insurance fraud if they can't be traced.
I don't blame the driver, but I do 'partially' blame the company in question. They should provide training to determine whether a check is false or not. The delivery company is acting as an agent to the business when they accept large checks. The previous $6,000 check that the driver received was an obvious fake to my eyes.
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