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Team BIO-Rick
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Has anyone ever seen a loss from carpeting a box?? I mean it makes sense, in that it is probably absorbing the sound instead of reflecting it.

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try it and post your results so we all know...or give me your termlab.net and I'll find out for ya...lol

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quote:
Originally posted by Bumpin' Yota:
try it and post your results so we all know...or give me your termlab.net and I'll find out for ya...lol

LOL, no the reason I ask, is because I went from a 150.5 to a 149.4 by carpeting the box

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quote:
Originally posted by Team BIO-Rick:
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Originally posted by Bumpin' Yota:
try it and post your results so we all know...or give me your termlab.net and I'll find out for ya...lol

LOL, no the reason I ask, is because I went from a 150.5 to a 149.4 by carpeting the box
You are not the first to speak of this...I know of a CRX that was quite loud last year that never went to finals that had the same loss, post carpet.

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That's why I either paint or vinyl the box- just paranoid about that stuff [Wink] !

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Trust me dont carpet the box. I have had 1st hand experience with it, and let me tell you it sucks I had a 1.8 db losss from carpet one time last year in a street car I was playing with. Again I repeat dont carpet!!!!!

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mdf has such a beautiful natural grain pattern to it. [Roll Eyes] why would anyone want to carpet it??? [Big Grin]

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That would explain why we lost a Db in a ute we did , damn carpet , oh well new box will be painted.Was wondering bout that.

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My seats are grungy - So what about those seat covers you can buy at walmart? Hurt Hinder or Neither?

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i know of this travesty also. i am currently driving one with the same db killing stuff in it. when i initially built the car, it brought back about +2 db bare, vs carpet. i also didn't do the math, and finished the car. i'm still climbing with the car, but will eventually change it to maybe vinyl to see the difference

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quote:
Originally posted by Bumpin' Yota:
My seats are grungy - So what about those seat covers you can buy at walmart? Hurt Hinder or Neither?

Steve,

try some extra thick sheeps skins to see waht that does. [Big Grin]

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what type of install are we talking about? I have a trunk car with the subs and port foward. i have it carpeted. I have not tryed it not carpeted. do you realy think it makes a big differance?

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i drive a honda del sol with the removable top. i also have just started db drag racing. doin' 'bout a 48.7 so far with room for improvement. don't think it'll make the top in SS1-2, but i've only been blastin' since May 03. i at least want to be competitive there this year. maybe i can get a little better next year. i call it "LIVIN' & LEARNIN'". most folka are, or seem to be fairly impressed with it, but i'm not satisfied yet.i carpeted the whole rear in a surround setup and lost 2-2.5 db in just doing that, but at the time the car was just to piss off my local business competitor. now it is to see how loud i can make it like it is. that is why i say maybe next year.

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quote:
Originally posted by hulioshonda:
...but at the time the car was just to piss off my local business competitor. now it is to see how loud i can make it like it is. that is why i say maybe next year.

That is PRECISELY how I got started in dB Drag. I'd LOVE to see ole Eric's face from Audiojerks of Gainesville if he were to sit in Yota now. Actually thinking back, I Eric was one of the few there I could even tolerate.

I normally give business to local shops, but that's one shop I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. For 25,000 bucks, they promised a customer a 167+ legal dB. 18 12s in a cut through and 6kw later they barely scratched out a 150.7 on the OLD AUDIO CONTROL!!

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quote:
Originally posted by AndrewHarper:
quote:
Originally posted by Bumpin' Yota:
My seats are grungy - So what about those seat covers you can buy at walmart? Hurt Hinder or Neither?

Steve,

try some extra thick sheeps skins to see waht that does. [Big Grin]

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There is no way that carpeting a box with the unbacked trunkliner has any effect on frequencies below say, 8k hertz. To be an effective barrier against bass, you would have to have carpet or a foam pad say, 6-8" thick. So, if you want to kill off any problems with your tweeters, then, yeah, get some trunk liner.

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For 25,000 bucks, they promised a customer a 167+ legal dB. 18 12s in a cut through and 6kw later they barely scratched out a 150.7 on the OLD AUDIO CONTROL!!

Did he get a rose and dinner before that happend?

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quote:
Originally posted by winslow:
There is no way that carpeting a box with the unbacked trunkliner has any effect on frequencies below say, 8k hertz. To be an effective barrier against bass, you would have to have carpet or a foam pad say, 6-8" thick. So, if you want to kill off any problems with your tweeters, then, yeah, get some trunk liner.

Well I dunno, I just know what happened, all I did was carpet my box and lost 1.1 dB

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All you did was carpet you box and forget your feq.... [Big Grin] [Wink]

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quote:
Originally posted by Team BIO-Zac:
All you did was carpet you box and forget your feq.... [Big Grin] [Wink]

Oh SHADDDUP!!! I remembered or shall I say Steve did

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160+db and gaining.....

I think that I have said too much....................I must go now................the SPL Ninja's are upon me  -
Need more power? UP YOURS!! with Excessive Amperage!

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quote:
Originally posted by winslow:
There is no way that carpeting a box with the unbacked trunkliner has any effect on frequencies below say, 8k hertz. To be an effective barrier against bass, you would have to have carpet or a foam pad say, 6-8" thick. So, if you want to kill off any problems with your tweeters, then, yeah, get some trunk liner.

Inside of a trunk perhaps, however carpet has been proven on the meter to loose in cars like a CRX or SUV. Hell, different seat covers have influenced scores favorably and disfavorably.

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quote:
Originally posted by Bumpin' Yota:
quote:
Originally posted by winslow:
There is no way that carpeting a box with the unbacked trunkliner has any effect on frequencies below say, 8k hertz. To be an effective barrier against bass, you would have to have carpet or a foam pad say, 6-8" thick. So, if you want to kill off any problems with your tweeters, then, yeah, get some trunk liner.

Inside of a trunk perhaps, however carpet has been proven on the meter to loose in cars like a CRX or SUV. Hell, different seat covers have influenced scores favorably and disfavorably.
I think it has to do with the "CRX" style box, and the way that it relies on the backwave from the roof

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Need more power? UP YOURS!! with Excessive Amperage!

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