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I think the rear side windows because the window line of my rear side windows is a good 2 inches higher than my front windows, and my back hatch windows is too low also...
I can live with last years rules though...my box is within the rules...
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Leave it where it's at! We already have enough problems with box height.
If you take it to the back window you still get the problems with, when measuring are you looking at the vehicle perfectly level and crap like that. Let's keep the changing of the rules to a minimum and only change things that were exploited because they were not defined more clearly.
Front or back windows it really doesn't matter, as you'll always have someone who sees it differant then everybody else.
Let's just get some rules in ink so we all can get to building .
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Originally posted by BUMPNDABAY! posted 01-08-2002 10:58PM:
quote: Leave it where it's at! We already have enough problems with box height.
Exactly why I would like to see it changed ___________________________________________________________
Well it just seems to me that being right next to the rear window would make it a lot easier tell the height than if it's 4 or 5 feet away, but maybe I'm wrong, I mean no one's perfect, so it has to happen someday, right?
When measuring from the side windows, there are two reference points to determine if the enclosure is within standards. If we begin to use the rear window only (1 reference point), how would we know if we are properly testing the enclosure height?
The description of how to determine if an enclosure is below the window, is clear and precise. If someone does not understand the measuring technique, it would not make it more clear by changing the description. Even if there were confusion about the measuring technique, it would be better to update the current description instead of making a whole new set of measuring techniques. Improve of something you think may not be precis, not change it (which could create a new set of confusions).
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Sid, I don't see a problem arising from raising (or lowering) the legal height to the rear window, sedans already have that approx. restriction, and there's nothing to stop anyone from continuing to use the same measurement 'techniques', it would just provide many nubies who have already built their systems up to the rear window, the opportunity to compete in Street (novice?) rather than lose hard in the SS1-2/SS3-4 WALL classes.
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Ok I have a question. I drive a Ford Explorer and I built my box to be clearly under my back windows. And everyone knows what an Explorer looks like. Now if Im under my rear windows am I ok, or if it is a hair over the front am I screwed?? Just curious, because my box is clearly a no wall and If a hairline changes that then I think it is bull.
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quote:Originally posted by SPLfreak2: Ok I have a question. I drive a Ford Explorer and I built my box to be clearly under my back windows. And everyone knows what an Explorer looks like. Now if Im under my rear windows am I ok, or if it is a hair over the front am I screwed?? Just curious, because my box is clearly a no wall and If a hairline changes that then I think it is bull.
Eric
To you, it may be "bull", but the rules are designed in a fashion that allows each and every competitor to contest against others who have similar designs. The rule was not written to see how many people it could disqualify, it was written to promote equality among competitors.
My question to you is...If you were thinking about competitng in the SS-NW class of dB Drags, and if you knew the rules for SS-NW states that the enclosure could be no higher than the window seals...why did you overlook the rule, and build something that you knew was not allowed in SS-NW class?
If the difference between the enclosure being determined as a wall or not a wall, is only a matter of a "hairline"...then the size of the the enclosure (that would allow your participation in the SS-NW class) should have been more closely examined before the final construction.
To you, it may be "bull", but the rules are designed in a fashion that allows each and every competitor to contest against others who have similar designs. The rule was not written to see how many people it could disqualify, it was written to promote equality among competitors.
My question to you is...If you were thinking about competitng in the SS-NW class of dB Drags, and if you knew the rules for SS-NW states that the enclosure could be no higher than the window seals...why did you overlook the rule, and build something that you knew was not allowed in SS-NW class?
If the difference between the enclosure being determined as a wall or not a wall, is only a matter of a "hairline"...then the size of the the enclosure (that would allow your participation in the SS-NW class) should have been more closely examined before the final construction.
But, then again, this is only my opinion.
Well Sid, here's my point. When I designed my box, I designed it to be below the rear windows not the front windows, as I did not read the rule as meaning the front most windows, (not to say it doesn't say this), and I have no clue how I would measure the distance from the flat bed of my cargo area floor to the hieght of my front window, this would be a mear guess, and thus make it subjective. Plus the window hieght on Ford Explorer's does not vary very much as the window's go back, so my point is that it would be stupid for my box to be considered a wall when it is and inch under my rear windows and possibly a hair over my front windows, but I do understand that rules are rules for reasons. I just dont think that the rule was designed for the hairline difference in the front and rear windows of an Explorer.
Everybody just ignore my ranting please, as it carries no weight to any arguement anyways, just my humble opinion. Oh yea Im not diong super street anyways, Im diong Street.
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