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Does anyone here feel that there may ever be a committee consisting of representatives for each class of competition? It could work like a student body association.
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Well I don't think we need to go that far as to have a committee for each class, cause that could just get messy. Not to mention the fact that Wayne allows all competitors and even non-competitors to come on here and post their opinions. The only thing that having a committee would do is maybe keep the tempers from flaring like they do on here, but hey we are all adults and should realize that and watch the tempers and the insults ourselves, cause none of it helps the organization. The only thing that I really wish would happen, and I am not so convinced that it does....is, I think the opinions of the people who are affected by new rules/rule changes should be taken into consideration a bit more then the opinions of others who wouldn't be affected by changes in that class. When discussion of rule changes came up this last time, there were pages and pages and pages of posts of peoples opinions, and after the rules came out it seems as though a lot of the new rules were based on the opinions of people who weren't affected by them rather then the ones that were affected by them. To clarify I mean...if you are an Extreme competitor, you have evey right to voice your opinion about Street, but it needs to be the opinions of the Street competitors that ultimatly help Wayne make decisions.
That's just my opinion, feel free to agree or disagree.
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quote:Originally posted by firefly: To clarify I mean...if you are an Extreme competitor, you have evey right to voice your opinion about Street, but it needs to be the opinions of the Street competitors that ultimatly help Wayne make decisions.
That's just my opinion, feel free to agree or disagree.
Last year I was thinking of doing a street 1-2 car, but didn't have the time to compete. This year I have an extreme 1 car almost ready to go... and seeing all the comps I've been to so far has prompted me to build a street A car, to the point where I'm putting money into my little brothers car JUST so he can compete street A.
I do not expect to win right off the bat, I think this may be the major problem here... there should not be 50 classes so everyone can win, just a class where your budget fits you. Anyone who owns a car with a moderate stereo in it should have th ebudget to make a decent Street A setup. Yeah, it takes time, and patience, and dedication, as does everything else. I am willing to put that into my brothers car, a neon, might be tough.
But ya know what? It'll probably be a hell of a lot easier than our 1980 SS 1-2 NW Oldsmobile... talk about a hard car to get loud.
So hopefully there are people out there as ambitiuos as some of us, who are willing to lose a few comps and put the time and effort into it to make it happen.
I see this one dude at every competition around here, who gets pissed off when he loses everytime... he has has the exact same install for the last three years that I've seen, maybe even longer, since it's never changed from what I see... it's sorta loud. could be hella loud, he just never makes the effort.
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quote:Originally posted by chemid51: There is some truth to this. There are only 2 street classes. With all the recent articles about DB Drag, never a mention of street vehicles, you would'nt even know there are any. DB Drag is centered on extreme vehicles. If you want more emphesis on street classes, another orginization would probaly suit you better.
Good point but it's the same in any Sport that has a pro div. In Baseball you don't here about the Sac River cats in Sports Illustrated near as much as you do the A's if at all. The mags have to talk about stuff that sells there mag. Big, crazy stereos sell mags. In my opinion you should compete in street class cuz it's fun and not to get in a mag.
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I don't understand why more street competitors don't push mini street more and if you aren't tryin to go to finals why not enter in mini street!?! If your judge doesn't offer mini street bug him till he does!! I don't wanna piss people off but every year it seems like the street rule discussion is more about, how can "I" win and less about the greater good
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Even mini-street is getting a bit out of hand. When the discussion of breaking up Street class into more defined classes was upon us, all anyone said was for the true newbies to go into mini-street. This was their best option until they learned the ropes, right???? Well did I just read a post right that said someone in mini-street did a 148? Was this on the new mics? If so...YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME! Newbie class...BULL!
On another note, yes mini-street has to be promoted, unfortunatly for newbies here in Cali, as it is we have hardly any shows, and I don't think that is going to change this season, maybe a few more will be added, but not many. So if we have no shows, how can we bug the promoters to hold mini-street. I think we first need to "bug" the shops to hold shows. Zac would you happen to know of any shops that might be interested in holding an event? Posts: 217 | From: California | Registered: Jun 2002
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quote:Originally posted by chemid51: There is some truth to this. There are only 2 street classes. With all the recent articles about DB Drag, never a mention of street vehicles, you would'nt even know there are any. DB Drag is centered on extreme vehicles. If you want more emphesis on street classes, another orginization would probaly suit you better.
Good point but it's the same in any Sport that has a pro div. In Baseball you don't here about the Sac River cats in Sports Illustrated near as much as you do the A's if at all. The mags have to talk about stuff that sells there mag. Big, crazy stereos sell mags. In my opinion you should compete in street class cuz it's fun and not to get in a mag.
The articles I am refering to are popular science, washington post, and wall street journal: not car audio magazines. The way DB Drag is being presented to the public is as an extreme vehicle sport- this will not get more street competitors. Is that good or bad?? Maybe Wayne wants DB Drag to be more for extreme vehicles. More extreme vehicles = more spectators = more money. More street classes = more competitor memberships = more money. Works either way.
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Mini street may work up north and in the west but down here, it ain't working. Let alone if i wanted to go to a dbdrag event, i have to drive over three hours for a single point event. That is a long ass drive for me and my honda.
Just my point. Ministreet is good in some places but not in others.
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Hey Adam, Ed Eason always has mini-street at his shows, last year Audio Extreme (Longwood) also had mini street at there shows. The different is that there is WAY less shows this year than last year in Florida.
quote:Originally posted by chemid51: The articles I am refering to are popular science, washington post, and wall street journal: not car audio magazines. The way DB Drag is being presented to the public is as an extreme vehicle sport- this will not get more street competitors. Is that good or bad?? Maybe Wayne wants DB Drag to be more for extreme vehicles. More extreme vehicles = more spectators = more money. More street classes = more competitor memberships = more money. Works either way.
The facts is, in any mag the bigger more elaborate cars with there bullet proof windows and 32 amp get more attention. More attention= more and better press= more awareness of the sport for all(even street and mini street competitors)
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Maybe so, but until I started attending NHRA events I never thought that it could be within my reach to be a NHRA "drag racer". Then I saw the 'street' classes they have and how many dozens of averager guys and gals get to build a fast car and race it on the same track as the 350 MPH beasts. If people see only Extreme cars in press then they excuse it as a novelty and something they would never participate in...with tens of thousands of dollars needed to be invested. There's plenty of action to be had in dB Drag, as well as NHRA's "lower" classes.
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quote:Originally posted by piposs3-4: Hey Adam, Ed Eason always has mini-street at his shows, last year Audio Extreme (Longwood) also had mini street at there shows. The different is that there is WAY less shows this year than last year in Florida.
This is so tru and it pisses me off 'cause this is my first year competing .
Second thing, where did the whole "I want to be in a magazine" thing come from? I just want to compete and not get raped, I could care less about bein' in a magazine.
Third, chemid51, sounds like what you're saying is that dB Drag is all about money?
Fourth, I wish there was some sort of class that only allowed one amp and one sub!
quote:Originally posted by piposs3-4: Hey Adam, Ed Eason always has mini-street at his shows, last year Audio Extreme (Longwood) also had mini street at there shows. The different is that there is WAY less shows this year than last year in Florida.
This is so tru and it pisses me off 'cause this is my first year competing .
Second thing, where did the whole "I want to be in a magazine" thing come from? I just want to compete and not get raped, I could care less about bein' in a magazine.
Third, chemid51, sounds like what you're saying is that dB Drag is all about money?
Fourth, I wish there was some sort of class that only allowed one amp and one sub!
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