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hdn23
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If anyone try to get big cash on final, first you have to support dB Drag by sending out the letter to all the stereo shop and manufactory asking for donation to support the sport.

Wayne, should be the one info the written letter showing this is for dB Drag final. Competitor use the letter go to their local stereo shop asking for donation. The stereo shop can mail the donation check to the dB Drag department and save for the final, that way winner will get large cash pay. Don't forget competitor who meet should donation from the shop should have free membership and discount (half price) for final registration or something like that.

This method is works, we have done this in school to support autocross events. We went to all the repair shop asking for donation to support automotive events. We get quit a lot of money to run the event.

Since, we in stereo system we can do it the same by asking any shop that carried stereo to help support the final event or the sport that support their shop. A $20-100 bucks is no problem with shop some shop even give more then you think. They can use the donation as tax deductable on their business.


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Bobby Riley
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quote:
Originally posted by hdn23:
If anyone try to get big cash on final, first you have to support dB Drag by sending out the letter to all the stereo shop and manufactory asking for donation to support the sport.

Wayne, should be the one info the written letter showing this is for dB Drag final. Competitor use the letter go to their local stereo shop asking for donation. The stereo shop can mail the donation check to the dB Drag department and save for the final, that way winner will get large cash pay. Don't forget competitor who meet should donation from the shop should have free membership and discount (half price) for final registration or something like that.

This method is works, we have done this in school to support autocross events. We went to all the repair shop asking for donation to support automotive events. We get quit a lot of money to run the event.

Since, we in stereo system we can do it the same by asking any shop that carried stereo to help support the final event or the sport that support their shop. A $20-100 bucks is no problem with shop some shop even give more then you think. They can use the donation as tax deductable on their business.



Copy and paste must work well for you. I have read this exact post 3 times this morning in two different posts.

[ 12-20-2001: Message edited by: JustboB ]

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Sorry you have seen more than one posts. There is a little problem when I submit the replied post so I decided to make a new post that all.
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Here is a simple test. Play along if you want to, or ignore it all together....

If I was the owner of an audio retail outlet, and you were to walk into my store asking for donations. Convince me to give money to something in which I will not see a great return. What would I get for my donation, because I know of very few people who will give without getting a return. Would I get national exposure? (I could do that by becoming a member of dBDRA) Would I see an increase in sales? (I could better use my money for local advertisments) Would I gain recognition? (maybe, but recognition does not pay the light bill)

Pretend you have just stepped into my place of business....convince me to donate. (if your game)

PS. I do not want to sound "mean" but I want to show that it is not as simple as it may sound.

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Sid I totally agree with you, many shops will be weary to support something that they will never see benefit or gains from. I think hdn23 is missing one key point that he even posted in his first post we have done this in school to support ...

The key word is school . Companies are more willing to contribute to the community they live in when it will benefit the learning process. Especially if they have children in school.

It is just like obtaining sponsorship for just about any other activity you can think of. You have to come up with a proposal as to how giving you money will benefit them. If you are not professional about it, the chances that you will get anything are slim to none, that is unless you have family high up in the company.

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I know asking for free money is not that easy, just how you represent to the shop owner about dD Drag.

Of course, the shop have to get recognition with advertisement banner posted at dD Drag final for the whole world to see or being know to everyone.

That is how I view the opportunity for competitor getting large cash at final.
It's up to Wayne to make this kind of deciding. If you don't try, how do you know it not work?


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quote:
Originally posted by hdn23:
If you don't try, how do you know it not work?

I have tried.

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Well first off to get any more sponsors we as a dbdrag whole need to stop crying and whining about each other here on the forum. Lets show some professionslism..anyway..

I'm sure wayne does this already but maybe set aside portions of each membership fee of everyone, manufactures also and put them towards the pot at the end of the year. I think by wayne hooking up with these import tuner shows, that will help in getting more cash shows and possibly a new big sponsor or sponsors for finals, would be great to have greddy, AEM, DCsports, Honda, etc. wanting a piece of the action at finals...

Give it time, it will all work out.

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Suffice to say, approaching a company about a national sponsorship program in this mannar is akin to putting flyers on the windshields of cars at a local supermarket - they are really annoying, highly unprofessional, and nobody ever buys anything off of them.

What WOULD work is a targeted program to certain sponsors where one could arcitulate VALUE for thier sponsorship. The folks who are potential sponsors are looking for ROI, which is an acronym for Return On Investment. The folks who are running the potential sponsors are looking to make an investment today for additional revenues tomorrow, and are NOT running a charity fund for promising causes.

SQ has fallen on hard times because they failed to make changes necessary for mfg's (who are the SOLE source of funding for sanctioning bodies) to justify continiued support - i.e. it sells product, and you can identify it. SQ was fine until the dealers found the events were unmanagable and took away from their ability to sell product.

Like it or not, that's the way it is, and Wayne knows that if he can't make a model which the value equation is right side up (higher return than a sponsor's investment) they won't continue.

I knew grad school economics would come in handy some day.

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I hate to say it, but this idea will never work...or generate any substantial funds...please see other post and support the idea(s) that will work. Thank-you.

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Since, Wayne have try doing this process I pretty sure any stereo shop who support local dB Drag event will donate something for final event. What is the point of throwing the dB Drag for without a little help?
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Asking for free bee money is not everyone can do, only certain people that have skills, knowledge, know what to do, being professional about dB Drag can get the job done. If you were a stranger going in the stereo shop asking for donation, I would turn that person away too. You have too build up the relationship with the shop owner. After years of being a customer and friend to all the local shop, I don’t think the owner saying no that easy just for a little help. It’s much cheaper than sponsor a single competitor. They know supporting dB Drag is benefiting their shop too. Thing will come around go around.

This is only for certain people can gain extra benefit on their be half like free dB Drag membership, final registration and other goodies that Wayne approve the process. Everyone else is paying his or her due fee for his or her inability. If you can get the job done why not? It benefits on both parties and the competitor.

If you can not get the job done, you have not thing to lose. Just don’t turn the opportunity away, supported!
Doesn’t mean is not working for you, and anyone else can.

Here is the keys term: Relationship, Knowledge, Skills, and Professionalism when representing dB Drag.


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Asking for free bee money is not everyone can do

Bro please dont take this the wrong way, but your idea in the text that i quoted is correct (IF it was complete). You have to be professional, and the shop will be expecting a ROI (what are they going to gain by promoting this event). If someone who cant even produce one post with proper grammar asked me for money for car stereo gear, I would tell them they should focus more on their education.

Please don't take this as a flame, I am just stating that many people think it is easy to gain sponsorship for anything. People who want the easy (gimme's) make it difficult for the true professionals in this sport. I am talking about big name people who are sponsored like alma gates. I would bet that she had a proposal several pages long describing how a company sponsoring her would benefit. My local shop that i have frequented over the past few years wouldnt even consider giving me a break on metering my car once I build my new box.

And they charged me 20 bucks for a 1 foot symbilink to rca cable. That seems kinda high to me. And people wonder why internet sales soar.

Here's a tip: If you do come up with a proposal, please use a spelling/grammar checking program


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Sorry, my writing is suck but your response seem understandable. If I'm that good on writing, I would have wrote a novel about dB Drag and competitor who crying for prize money.

Like it or not, anyone have better idea or theory? Post them.


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Since you insist that this will work, let me break down each point for you and tell you why it won't.

If anyone try to get big cash on final, first you have to support dB Drag by sending out the letter to all the stereo shop and manufactory asking for donation to support the sport.
If you havent noticed, several large manufacturers do support dbdrag. One large name that comes to mind KENWOOD. Also asking local stereo shops to support Dbdrag will not be enough. They will want to know how they will profit from their donation

Wayne, should be the one info the written letter showing this is for dB Drag final.

If I am not mistaken, wayne has gone through great lengths to ensure the competitors get good prizes. He made a deal to have more sponsors at the spring break event by including the tuning market. Very good idea in my opinion

Competitor use the letter go to their local stereo shop asking for donation. The stereo shop can mail the donation check to the dB Drag department and save for the final, that way winner will get large cash pay.

Once again, your local shop just isnt going to send money into Dbdrag unless it benefits them in some way. Yes donations are a tax write off, but would they rather donate to a local charity then a stereo event????

Don't forget competitor who meet should donation from the shop should have free membership and discount (half price) for final registration or something like that.

So what you are suggesting is that anyone who fundraises for dbdrag finals should be allowed to compete for free? Entry fees are collected to cover the enormous expense that producing a show costs. You are trading apples for apples here. The money collected from the shops would hopefully be enough to cover the money lost to free entry for said competitors

This method is works, we have done this in school to support autocross events. We went to all the repair shop asking for donation to support automotive events. We get quit a lot of money to run the event.

Once again, key word here is SCHOOL. Shops are willing to donate to the local community. It's called KARMA. Do something good for your community, and the favor will be returned and then some. Plus many of the shops workers have students attending said schools and could possibly benefit them. It is also a tax write off in many instances

Since, we in stereo system we can do it the same by asking any shop that carried stereo to help support the final event or the sport that support their shop. A $20-100 bucks is no problem with shop some shop even give more then you think. They can use the donation as tax deductable on their business.

With the invention of the internet, many shops have lowered their profit margins to compete with online sales. The difference between the two is the cost of overhead. Online sales generate less operating expenses and can in turn offer lower prices. Read all the posts about "supporting your local retailer. As you know several members here online work in these so called shops. The audio retail industry in general Cant continue to reap the profits they once had due to the internet. So you are telling me that a shop that has had to lower prices to compete with online sales is going to donate money to an event that will bring them little to no coverage. An event that will more than likely not affect that shops profit margins???

In another post you said: something about dB Drag and competitor who crying for prize money.
Like it or not, anyone have better idea or theory?

Well there may be some competitors crying about prize money. But most people know you arent going to become a millionaire competing in dbdrag. Most people do it for the competition and they enjoy the sport.

On a final note, I have a better suggestion. I see several newbies coming in asking how to get sponsorship. You have to prove that you can win before anyone will pay you to do so. If you want to join dbdrag, save your money, build up a system, pay your entry fees and compete. Just realize you will never get endorsements like basketball players or racecar drivers. If that is not good enough, then maybe you are in this sport for the wrong reasons. That is just my opinion, and you know the saying about opinions, they are just like a$$holes, everybody's got one.

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quote:
Originally posted by cbrman:
...you arent going to become a millionaire competing in dbdrag.

Thanks for bursting my bubble.

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quote:
Originally posted by Big Ed:
Well first off to get any more sponsors we as a dbdrag whole need to stop crying and whining about each other here on the forum. Lets show some professionslism..anyway..


Thank you!! At least a few people understand.

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