quote:Street Max Division Passenger Compartment Restrictions
3-9a No modifications to the passenger compartment in front of the trailing edge of the doorjamb are permitted.
Additional Guidelines:
· The OEM headliner (or an equivalent replacement) must remain in place for those areas in front of the trailing edge of the doorjamb.
· The OEM door panels (or an equivalent replacement) must remain in place for those areas in front of the trailing edge of the doorjamb.
· The OEM carpeting (or an equivalent replacement) must remain in place for those areas in front of the trailing edge of the doorjamb.
· Sound damping materials may be used to reduce vibration when installed in accordance with the manufacturer’s recommended installation instructions. The maximum total thickness of sound damping material applied at a given point may not exceed 5/32 inch (4mm). The sound damping application may consist of mat-type material, spray-on material, or a combination of the two. A maximum of 2 layers of mat-type material may be used in any application, even if the total thickness of the sound damping material(s) is less than 5/32 inch (4mm).
· Expanding foam may be used sparingly in front of the doorjambs to seal small openings or reduce vibration, but may not be used to fill voids or other large cavities (such as the dashboard or doors). An unlimited amount of expanding foam may be used behind the doorjambs.
3-9b Competitor’s may fold their seats during competition.
6-8a Speaker walls are permitted.
6-8b Commercially available center consoles are acceptable provided they displace less than 2 cubic feet of air. “Custom” or homemade center consoles are prohibited.
6-8c The sum total of “stiffening” capacitors in the Street Max A class is limited to a maximum of 1 Farad. The sum total of “stiffening” capacitors in the Street Max B class is limited to a maximum of 2 Farads.
Additional Guidelines:
· If an amplifier has an integrated “stiffening” capacitor, then the capacitance of the amp’s capacitor will be included when determining compliance with this rule.
6-8d Competitors in the Street Max A class are limited to 1 battery and competitors in the Street Max B class are limited to 2 batteries.
Additional Guidelines:
· Aftermarket batteries are acceptable.
· Batteries must be of the 12-volt variety.
· Batteries shall not exceed 15 inches in length, 8 inches in width, and 8 inches in height.
· The maximum surface charge voltage for the battery shall be 14 volts DC. (Measured in the judging lanes with the engine off.)
· Batteries may not be swapped out during the course of an event.
6-8e Aftermarket interconnects and power cabling are acceptable.
6-8f Podiums are permitted.
6-8g Temporary structural reinforcements to the vehicle are prohibited during competition. This includes attaching straps, suction cups, sand bags, etc. to the vehicle. However, pressing on the doors, windows, trunk and / or laying on the hood, roof, etc. is acceptable providing no other applicable rules are violated.
I have not found anything in the rules that says we can build up to the B pillar......it would seem that you still need to have the full function of your rear seats, if your car came with them.........DB Steve, Wayne or anyone else want to help me out and clear this up........i know i just missed something somewhere in the rules.....
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Wayne, would you consider making Street Max a NW class? It would still be Street(since not having a wall has been considered one of the big things that differentiate it from the other classes) but you could still build up to the B pillar.(basically SS 1-2 NW, but using only a Street electrical system, conductor limit, voltage limit etc..)
If you still wanted to have to option of a wall, just make Street A Max the NW class, and Street B Max the walled class. Everything else would remain the same(1-2 subs anysize, same conductor limit etc..)
quote:Originally posted by drjjg: Wayne, would you consider making Street Max a NW class? It would still be Street(since not having a wall has been considered one of the big things that differentiate it from the other classes) but you could still build up to the B pillar.(basically SS 1-2 NW, but using only a Street electrical system, conductor limit, voltage limit etc..)
If you still wanted to have to option of a wall, just make Street A Max the NW class, and Street B Max the walled class. Everything else would remain the same(1-2 subs anysize, same conductor limit etc..)
Just an idea.
It would be great if he would do one of each......Street MAx NW & Street Max Wall.....doing the subs like street B.....
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quote:Originally posted by drjjg: Wayne, would you consider making Street Max a NW class? It would still be Street(since not having a wall has been considered one of the big things that differentiate it from the other classes) but you could still build up to the B pillar.(basically SS 1-2 NW, but using only a Street electrical system, conductor limit, voltage limit etc..)
If you still wanted to have to option of a wall, just make Street A Max the NW class, and Street B Max the walled class. Everything else would remain the same(1-2 subs anysize, same conductor limit etc..)
Just an idea.
It would be great if he would do one of each......Street MAx NW & Street Max Wall.....doing the subs like street B.....
Didn't see that you posted this idea earlier Don
I'd agree with everything you said in this post, but I'd suggest limiting the amps to 2:
quote:Originally posted by Ghost man: No wall
or one of each....
Street max NW - 2-15s or 18s, 4-12s, 6-10s 4 amps, 2 batts, podeums, burp buttons
Street max Wall - 2-15s or 18s, 4-12s, 6-10s 4 amps, 2 batts, podeums, burp buttons
Seats in and car off just like street class.....but everything moves up to the B-pillar like in ss....
quote:Originally posted by drjjg: Wayne, would you consider making Street Max a NW class? It would still be Street(since not having a wall has been considered one of the big things that differentiate it from the other classes) but you could still build up to the B pillar.(basically SS 1-2 NW, but using only a Street electrical system, conductor limit, voltage limit etc..)
If you still wanted to have to option of a wall, just make Street A Max the NW class, and Street B Max the walled class. Everything else would remain the same(1-2 subs anysize, same conductor limit etc..)
Just an idea.
It would be great if he would do one of each......Street MAx NW & Street Max Wall.....doing the subs like street B.....
Didn't see that you posted this idea earlier Don
I'd agree with everything you said in this post, but I'd suggest limiting the amps to 2:
quote:Originally posted by Ghost man: No wall
or one of each....
Street max NW - 2-15s or 18s, 4-12s, 6-10s 4 amps, 2 batts, podeums, burp buttons
Street max Wall - 2-15s or 18s, 4-12s, 6-10s 4 amps, 2 batts, podeums, burp buttons
Seats in and car off just like street class.....but everything moves up to the B-pillar like in ss....
Then is would be less power than street B.....
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True, and if people really wanted 4, I'd be cool with that.
I think since it's Street, and you can be alot more creative with the install because of the increased room, it'd be more of an incentive to get people to try the Max class out.
It'd be a very competitive class, because the costs would still be in the same range as the Street classes(in fact cheaper than B and C in terms of equipment costs) but more expensive in terms of enclosure/space costs. Relatively low cost, HIGH emphasis on install. I think it'd be a great Street class.
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I like this class alot, I read in another post someone said its a affordable ss class. And it is its perfect for people like me who can't afford 4 crowns and 100 batteries to be competative. I thinks its going to be a good class. Just my 2cents.
quote:Originally posted by Team Urban ArtFX - Percy: I don't like it. There's nothing street about a wall
But i peasonaly have seen lots of people with boxes and overall installs that get counted as a wall...and are not walls....they are just a bit too high to pass the string test........and most of them are not running what it would take to compete in SS..........but they could hang in Max......
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quote:Originally posted by Team Urban ArtFX - Percy: I don't like it. There's nothing street about a wall
X2 The powers that be, don't want more power cause that is not "street"... And walls are?
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quote:Originally posted by Team Urban ArtFX - Percy: I don't like it. There's nothing street about a wall
X2 The powers that be, don't want more power cause that is not "street"... And walls are?
i can think of 5 or 6 cars around here righ now that would be bumped into ss wall class due to modifications behind the b-pillar.....fiberglass, custom seating, amps in seat backs and all sorts of stuff like that......and only one of them has more than 2000wts...and that is the whole system.....an none of them could bust a 150db on the old mic...even the one with 6 10W6s.......and these type of instals are very common from the shops around here....they are street instals in daily drivers........
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quote:Originally posted by Ghost man: i can think of 5 or 6 cars around here righ now that would be bumped into ss wall class due to modifications behind the b-pillar.....fiberglass, custom seating, amps in seat backs and all sorts of stuff like that......and only one of them has more than 2000wts...and that is the whole system.....an none of them could bust a 150db on the old mic...even the one with 6 10W6s.......and these type of instals are very common from the shops around here....they are street instals in daily drivers........
I wouldn't see the problem with them running in Street Max as long as the box stayed below the window line. Let people modify their roofs, let them have custom seating (behind the B-pillar). How many cars really come out of retail shops with walls put in them? 1 out of a 100, 1 out of a 1000? I say let the interior rules be more lax, but keep the enclosure below window line.
It sounds to me like guys that weren't cutting it in SS with a wall want a lighter class to play in... I've been playing in street and want something a little tougher...
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quote:Originally posted by Ghost man: i can think of 5 or 6 cars around here righ now that would be bumped into ss wall class due to modifications behind the b-pillar.....fiberglass, custom seating, amps in seat backs and all sorts of stuff like that......and only one of them has more than 2000wts...and that is the whole system.....an none of them could bust a 150db on the old mic...even the one with 6 10W6s.......and these type of instals are very common from the shops around here....they are street instals in daily drivers........
I wouldn't see the problem with them running in Street Max as long as the box stayed below the window line. Let people modify their roofs, let them have custom seating (behind the B-pillar). How many cars really come out of retail shops with walls put in them? 1 out of a 100, 1 out of a 1000? I say let the interior rules be more lax, but keep the enclosure below window line.
It sounds to me like guys that weren't cutting it in SS with a wall want a lighter class to play in... I've been playing in street and want something a little tougher...
that is the reason why me and so many others want to see two classes...Max Wall and Max NW......
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