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here's my idea... just a suggestion so don't flame me if you don't like it. this idea is basically to invite more people to join DBDRA and have fun starting out.
Street - Music
A maximum of 1 subwoofer amplifier of no more than 1 channel, or 2 channels "bridged" may be used, and 2 amplifiers of no more than 4 channels all other speakers.
Subwoofer amplifiers must be rated at no more than 1500 watts RMS at the impedance load that they are being used on.
A maximum of 2 12" or smaller woofers 3 8" woofers, or 1 15" may be used.
Subwoofers may not contain more than 2 discreet voice coils.
Cargo vans and other commercial vehicles are prohibited.
Sponsored vehicles are not permitted, nor are vehicles owned or operated by any owner of a car audio store or shop, or their employees.
Electrical systems are limited to 1 battery in the stock location with no modifications to allow for a bigger battery, and 1 farad of total capacitance.
Voltage is limited to 15 Volts DC at both the battery and amplifier.
Vehicles may be running during competition.
"Beefed up" or upgraded alternators are permitted.
Contestants will play a music program of their choice for the entire 30 second testing period, and SPL will be averaged over this period.
Audio installations must comply with all other Street division regulations.
ok, that's my idea. anyone care to comment?
Posts: 32 | From: Ontario, Canada | Registered: Apr 2003
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entry level with beefed up alternators? LOL
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I don't understand why everyone is against beefed up alts in street. Anybody that truly understands a system should also understand that alts are more important in street then any other class. Do street beater power themselves by adding batteries until they have enough to run the system for the night? No, they couldn't. The good installs on bigger system include an alternator. An alternator of the right size will power the system all night whereas by just adding batteries they will still go dead sooner or later. If street is going to be a true street beat class then alts only make sense. In many ways a true street car is way more demanding then a competition car. In competition you need a 3-5 second burp, no big deal as far as supplying power is concerned. In a true street car you need to supply power to the system for hours. Alternators are the only easy way to do that. I relize that many street cars don't have beefed alts and they should add them, but IMO if you have a system large enough to benefit from a beefed up alt then the dealer should have sold you one. Why would you not want to have a balanced electrical system? This just seems like a no brainer to me. If you disagree that's fine, but it seems irresponsible to me to sell a system that you know the customer can only listen to for a short time before they encounter low voltage and the system screws up.
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I havent competed before, but this sounds interesting. I drive an opel gt, if anyone remebers they are like a 2/3 early vette. Stock alt is 28 amps So, there is no way for me to competite with out a big alt (except for giant batts and small burbs). I completly agree with rick, I want a system that i can listen too, not just burb and throw my stuff on the charger I like the idea of having the car running, and spl averaged over 30 sec, sounds more like what street is supposed to be (street vehicles?) I think this would be a great, inexpensive way to get peoples appities wet for dbdrag. Give them a good inital impression and im sure they will come back for more.
Posts: 37 | From: Laramie,WY | Registered: Jun 2003
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What do you define as music? That's where the problems start.
I could have my friend produce me a track that has a bassline set exactly at my peak frequency, goes solid for thw whole 30 seconds, and allows me to hit the same numbers as I'd do in the normal classes, especially with a beefed up alt and only 1500w.
Unless there is a set musical program, this idea won't do much to level the class out.
Posts: 577 | From: wienerpeg canada | Registered: Sep 2002
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the music would have to be the music tracks on the dB Jams CD for multi points, and tracks from commerically available CDs for single point events.
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quote:Originally posted by H-O-Alts-Rick: I don't understand why everyone is against beefed up alts in street. Anybody that truly understands a system should also understand that alts are more important in street then any other class. Do street beater power themselves by adding batteries until they have enough to run the system for the night? No, they couldn't. The good installs on bigger system include an alternator. An alternator of the right size will power the system all night whereas by just adding batteries they will still go dead sooner or later. If street is going to be a true street beat class then alts only make sense. In many ways a true street car is way more demanding then a competition car. In competition you need a 3-5 second burp, no big deal as far as supplying power is concerned. In a true street car you need to supply power to the system for hours. Alternators are the only easy way to do that. I relize that many street cars don't have beefed alts and they should add them, but IMO if you have a system large enough to benefit from a beefed up alt then the dealer should have sold you one. Why would you not want to have a balanced electrical system? This just seems like a no brainer to me. If you disagree that's fine, but it seems irresponsible to me to sell a system that you know the customer can only listen to for a short time before they encounter low voltage and the system screws up.
As a retailer, I have to support this 100% We build systems for street beaters on a pretty regular basis and the larger systems will simply kill the factory charging system and battery in a very short period of time. Multiple batteries that they can't charge is simply a bad idea.
Not only is it a good investment for street beaters, but it's good business for the retailer who sells them as well. When your selling big systems, you'd better sell a complete package that will hold up to the customers use/abuse on a long term basis or your clients will start going elsewhere.
If your worried about an "unfair advantage" then leave the rules alone so that the vehicle isn't running during SPL testing in street, but at least this way they have an alternator that is capable of putting a good charge back to that battery when they are done without having to sit there for 2 hours with the truck running at 2500 rpms or connect it to an external power supply/charger.
Posts: 279 | From: GA | Registered: Nov 2003
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after doing a little bit of thinking, a music street class would create a ton of controversy but with a standard song or track to play, it could be fun to watch.
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quote:Originally posted by TeamSubGoPoof: why not allow cars to be on in street, and have termlab setup to average a 10 second burp. Lets see how long those L7s on 9.0s last then.
They would last along time if you have the right box ...
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dBSteve Get Loud Productions LLC Posts: 8436 | From: Midwest | Registered: Aug 2000
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quote:Originally posted by Sassmaster: the music would have to be the music tracks on the dB Jams CD for multi points, and tracks from commerically available CDs for single point events.
Would 8tracks be allowed in this class??
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