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Ok I was thinking that if we have a pro street why not make that a class in which a certain company could sponser equipment so everyone has to use the same stuff...like maybe get Kicker to sponser it and have to use 12" L7s and a SINGLE kx 1200.1 or something...and of course noone in street ever pays retail so I think that all equipment for competitors in this class should be purchased through the dBDRA at dealer cost so that it is ensured that everyone indeed is running the same stuff. and of course in order to have this purchasing at dealer cost privalage you must buy your regular dbdrag memebership, plus a special Pro street membership for another $20 which gives you this ability and goes to the dBDRA as a kind of administative fee
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Ok, this helps out retailers and manufactures how? All I see is this making more work for the dBDRA for no return.
Along the same lines ...
How about a manufactures class where you have to run 2-L712's and a 1200.1. How you get this is up too you. Lets see what everyone can do with the same equipment.
Why Kicker? Well that was just an example. Manufactures could actually bid to be this 'sponsor' of the class and winner goes to highest bidder. The 'bid' could go as administrative fee or prize money.
Keep the equpment cheap enough. Retail on 2-L712's and a 1200.1 is still expensive ... around $1500, not includeing battery, wire, headunit, box.
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dBSteve Get Loud Productions LLC Posts: 8436 | From: Midwest | Registered: Aug 2000
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quote:Originally posted by dBSteve: Ok, this helps out retailers and manufactures how? All I see is this making more work for the dBDRA for no return.
Along the same lines ...
How about a manufactures class where you have to run 2-L712's and a 1200.1. How you get this is up too you. Lets see what everyone can do with the same equipment.
Why Kicker? Well that was just an example. Manufactures could actually bid to be this 'sponsor' of the class and winner goes to highest bidder. The 'bid' could go as administrative fee or prize money.
Keep the equpment cheap enough. Retail on 2-L712's and a 1200.1 is still expensive ... around $1500, not includeing battery, wire, headunit, box.
It could work...like if rf, jbl, kickern crossfire, and concept just for an example all had there 1200 wt amp for it with a pair of 12s to go with it.....granted then you will start getting into the misrated amps...
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quote:Originally posted by Ghost man: It could work...like if rf, jbl, kickern crossfire, and concept just for an example all had there 1200 wt amp for it with a pair of 12s to go with it.....granted then you will start getting into the misrated amps...
misrated amps ... you beat me too it
If this is done, this needs to be one manufacture only. Each year use a different manufacture. This would give one full years advertising for their product.
But this will probally never happen ..
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dBSteve Get Loud Productions LLC Posts: 8436 | From: Midwest | Registered: Aug 2000
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Like steve said, the manufacturer would probably change every year. That would mean that a competitor would have to purchase all new equipment every year. Maybe, it is not such a good idea.
I see that idea working more as an SPL installer's challenge at SBN and/or World Finals.
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quote:Originally posted by AndrewHarper: Like steve said, the manufacturer would probably change every year. That would mean that a competitor would have to purchase all new equipment every year. Maybe, it is not such a good idea.
Buying new product each year ...
This sounds like a perfect idea! This would increase sales on a retailer level.
You guys have to remember without retailer or manufactures we wouldn't have a place to play. Look at it this way, if you didnt' want to play in a manufactures class ... then dont. its that simple.
Support those that support the sport. Support your local retailer.
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dBSteve Get Loud Productions LLC Posts: 8436 | From: Midwest | Registered: Aug 2000
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This may not work for regular competitors, but it would be a good class to draw people into DbDrag. A lot of people would probably see it as "oh, ok, all I need is this stuff, and I can compete in this class and do ok. I was looking to get a stereo anyways"
After the year is up, I'd bet a lot of competitors would try to stay in DbDrag, though in the normal classes.
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quote:Originally posted by Nomex: A lot of people would probably see it as "oh, ok, all I need is this stuff, and I can compete in this class and do ok. I was looking to get a stereo anyways"
After the year is up, I'd bet a lot of competitors would try to stay in DbDrag, though in the normal classes.
Ummm...I wonder why dB Steve has his MINI-STREET classes set up this way. Ohh, cause of that reason. So that any retailer, can use their specific manufacturers products to sell to a kid and get him in a competitive class.
I think Steve's classes always work well, and this year will be even better with his current breakdown.
This is why STEVE BENTON's classes should be MANDITORY by next year rules...Just my opinion
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quote:Originally posted by Nomex: A lot of people would probably see it as "oh, ok, all I need is this stuff, and I can compete in this class and do ok. I was looking to get a stereo anyways"
After the year is up, I'd bet a lot of competitors would try to stay in DbDrag, though in the normal classes.
Ummm...I wonder why dB Steve has his MINI-STREET classes set up this way. Ohh, cause of that reason. So that any retailer, can use their specific manufacturers products to sell to a kid and get him in a competitive class.
I think Steve's classes always work well, and this year will be even better with his current breakdown.
This is why STEVE BENTON's classes should be MANDITORY by next year rules...Just my opinion
quote:Originally posted by Nomex: A lot of people would probably see it as "oh, ok, all I need is this stuff, and I can compete in this class and do ok. I was looking to get a stereo anyways"
After the year is up, I'd bet a lot of competitors would try to stay in DbDrag, though in the normal classes.
Ummm...I wonder why dB Steve has his MINI-STREET classes set up this way. Ohh, cause of that reason. So that any retailer, can use their specific manufacturers products to sell to a kid and get him in a competitive class.
I think Steve's classes always work well, and this year will be even better with his current breakdown.
This is why STEVE BENTON's classes should be MANDITORY by next year rules...Just my opinion
STEVE BENTON FOR PRESIDENT!
Now I wouldn't go that far...it would be SPAM burgers and Pepsi rations for everyone
I say "damustard" for President!!
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the whole stink people made bout the small 5% tolerances in fuses, think of the tolerancs in amps?....
I think it's a good idea, I actually think I posted something like this, before, maybe not, I might have jst been thinking about it....I think it would be fun, but at the same time.it wuld only fix one class...itself.. we'd be creating one class that is s close to fair as I think we will ever get, BUT, it's still don't help anyother clsses. AND, because everyone will be using the same thing....I TOTALY, see this being a CRX only class, considering in "MOST" situtions, same equipment differnt cars, the CRX/EXP will win.... maybe we should get honda, to sponser DbDrag....
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What about retailers who don't sell equipment for that class. Does that mean that they shouldn't support DB Drag. Of course not, but that is the way is sounds on some fo these posts.
I see too many problems with this class if the idea is to help the local retailer. I just don't see it actually happening by forcing people to use a specific equipment for a class.
Competitors will "ebay" and internet shop. They'll find used product. They'll find a way to compete at the lowest financial level.
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quote:Originally posted by AndrewHarper: What about retailers who don't sell equipment for that class. Does that mean that they shouldn't support DB Drag. Of course not, but that is the way is sounds on some fo these posts.
I see too many problems with this class if the idea is to help the local retailer. I just don't see it actually happening by forcing people to use a specific equipment for a class.
Competitors will "ebay" and internet shop. They'll find used product. They'll find a way to compete at the lowest financial level.
Pretty much no rule short of forcing competitors to prove receipts will ever stop internet shopping Posts: 577 | From: wienerpeg canada | Registered: Sep 2002
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quote:Originally posted by Ghost man: It could work...like if rf, jbl, kickern crossfire, and concept just for an example all had there 1200 wt amp for it with a pair of 12s to go with it.....granted then you will start getting into the misrated amps...
misrated amps ... you beat me too it
If this is done, this needs to be one manufacture only. Each year use a different manufacture. This would give one full years advertising for their product.
But this will probally never happen ..
Or all manufacturers could have a kit at a certain price kind of like the F&F kit or the kit lightning has.The kit should not include the box but amps and subs. It might sound hard to organize but I am sure that if someone called the manufacturer members of dB Drag and explained why the kit needed to be offered they would do it to compete. Most manufacturers have a variety of amps and subs they could mix and match to get to a package price. You would not have to buy the kit but have the same system as the kit. That way if you already had the amps from a package you would only need the subs or visa-versa.
quote:Originally posted by Ghost man: It could work...like if rf, jbl, kickern crossfire, and concept just for an example all had there 1200 wt amp for it with a pair of 12s to go with it.....granted then you will start getting into the misrated amps...
misrated amps ... you beat me too it
If this is done, this needs to be one manufacture only. Each year use a different manufacture. This would give one full years advertising for their product.
But this will probally never happen ..
Or all manufacturers could have a kit at a certain price kind of like the F&F kit or the kit lightning has.The kit should not include the box but amps and subs. It might sound hard to organize but I am sure that if someone called the manufacturer members of dB Drag and explained why the kit needed to be offered they would do it to compete. Most manufacturers have a variety of amps and subs they could mix and match to get to a package price. You would not have to buy the kit but have the same system as the kit. That way if you already had the amps from a package you would only need the subs or visa-versa.
The problems there is some companies that have higher prices than others will have a lower power amp in the kit and once again one company would be choson for the sheer "bang for the buck"....for example for the same $$ you can get a lanzar 1200d and two lanzar optidrive 12s or a kicker kx600.1 and a pair of 12L5s........i think i know who would have the advantage there....
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