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i can see that 5-8 and 9+ are fading away. not many people want/afford to compete in these classes. these classes did used to be packed 2 a few years ago. i think the power limit should come back up to be like 50kw. this used to be a rule and i think this would be a great change of events instead of getting rid of quads, although i am fine if quads are gone. yes, it was a good try to get rid of the power limit, but competition in the high end multisub classes has dropped greatly. I don't think alot of people will like this post, but it is better than getting rid of or combining 5-8 and 9+ both in ss and ex.
This will keep the "power bitching down"
This could possibly bring more people into 5-8 and 9+ making it more popular once again.
more subs in a vehicle has a greater effect on people just starting out in dbdrag, than just a bunch of street,nw, and ss1-2 people.
although the only problems i see might be rating of some amplifiers if it goes by that, or some competitors running a (for example d2 at .5, does alot more than rated, something of that nature).
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I have to agree that power is getting quite "out there"....some people are running some insane amounts of power......but isnt that just a part of what the SS and extreme classes are about.....Street systems on steroids?? An amp limet of some sort would be nice but if Wayne doent want to do it in the Street class I would highly doubt he would go for it in SS or Ex........
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What would a 50,000 watt power cap limit? We have 48,000watts. I don't think it would help any.
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everyone is talking about, how will it be enforced, making it sound like a hard thing, when it isn't. how about, you can't use the amps at finals unless they are tested. yah it is hard to do, but not even close to impossible, meca is able to do. don't act like this is unheard of, they used to be a power limit that you could have in your car in dbdrag(yah even after the power classes were done away with). If no one wants to do the work to better dbdrag, that is on every single one of us. what can you do, to make dbdrag better, or is there some magical way i can sit on my butt and make dbdrag better? which is it?
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Why is it everyone wants to continually lower the bar for competition....... you don't see NASCAR lowering the bar and allowing anyone who has a ford festiva race ... just cause they cant afford a half a million dollar race car. Or the NBA allowing retarded people on the court cause they played at the special Olympics. was it not Wayne himself that used to say, "Get Loud or Go Home"... Why should I have to limit myself, to some other guys abilities???
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i only believe in leveling the playing field, if the playing field is being leveled already. i would love for things to stay the way they are. i am just throwing out some suggestions on how to limit further problems from what is supposed to be limited now.
i have said since the beginning, if companies do not want to make quads, THEN MAKE A DUAL THAT IS LOUDER THAN THE QUADS. really duals with the same power a quad has, duals should in theory be louder just due to the voice coil being 1/2-1/4th the weight. the real question that most are missing is that wayne wants ideas for new people to come in, i am trying to get it to be that way, our 5-8 and 9+ classes don't have many high end competitors, how many people in 9+ busted a 60 at finals in ss9+? how many did a 70 in ex 9+?
part of the problem i am seeing is all these classes that are cheaper, and prolly for newer people that have competed for a few years like ss1-2 and what not are sooooo packed with people. basically i am trying to get some of those people there, and move them into higher classes like ss5-8 and 9+. what got you into dbdrag? seeing a person with 2 subs, or seeing someone with 12 15's?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Private Entertainer:
why? because DbDRA is NOT a huge 40billion dollar biz. in nascar, you are sponsered, PERIOD. so, at this pace "in todays economy" DbDrag is going to come down to the 40 or so compitiors who get the stuff for free....that sounds like a good idea.... it then would be like nascar...a show... very little compition....just a show, that anyone watching, will never have a chance to compete in.
and you compare it to NBA? LOL, come on, are you calling everyone who didn't go to finals a retrard? There is a big diffrence between being mentaly or physicaly chalenged, nd not being to be able to afford a 20K+ toss out for FUN... oh, and bragging rights. AND, as with the nascar comment, we are not getting paid LOTS of money to be loud, we do it because we like to do it...lol, if someone paid me 2 or 3 million a yer to do DbDrag, you can bet your ass I would be one of, if not THE loudest.
quote: well then drop it down to 40kw bobby... also alot of people are afraid of the new rf amp bd3001 i think it is called...
Why would anyone be afraid of something that doesn't even exist?
If and when it exists, it will be available for anyone to purchase it, so why be afraid.
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quote: well then drop it down to 40kw bobby... also alot of people are afraid of the new rf amp bd3001 i think it is called...
Why would anyone be afraid of something that doesn't even exist?
If and when it exists, it will be available for anyone to purchase it, so why be afraid.
Because some people will get it for free, some will get it dirt cheap, and some would have to buy them at or above dealer cost. It's the same old story, you gotta have the power to win. Bottom line is, the "48,000 watts" that you guys have is a hell of lot more than the 48k that other guys have. Does it really matter, nope. In the end it's going to come down to who has the best sponsor or the deepest pockets.
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I didn't call anyone anything....... I have all top notch equipment, more than enough power ... and didn't go to finals, simply because I had to work a lot this past year, and didn't get to work on the van...... But nonetheless..... any sport is what it is, competition, survival of the fittest, if you dot fall in that category...... then learn your place in life and accept it. everyone has a role in life, if your role isn't to be the most sponsored person on the planet, then accept it, and find another way to win. i understand, crying about why you cant win may actually work one day, but until then, why not make the best out of the current situation, and work on you buggy, instead of weeping on the forum........ or is that the role you choose
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jeez that sounded like a personal attack. i am sorry if i have done something to you in the past, but i don't win with any of my suggestions. i have no alterior motive, except for ss5-8,9+,ex5-8,9+ to have more people in it. i am trying to find a solution to get these once great classes more people in it, instead of not competing in dbdrag or staying in low classes. excuse me for helping.
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quote:Originally posted by Bobby Riley:
quote:Originally posted by BIG YUKON T:
quote: well then drop it down to 40kw bobby... also alot of people are afraid of the new rf amp bd3001 i think it is called...
Why would anyone be afraid of something that doesn't even exist?
If and when it exists, it will be available for anyone to purchase it, so why be afraid.
Because some people will get it for free, some will get it dirt cheap, and some would have to buy them at or above dealer cost. It's the same old story, you gotta have the power to win. Bottom line is, the "48,000 watts" that you guys have is a hell of lot more than the 48k that other guys have. Does it really matter, nope. In the end it's going to come down to who has the best sponsor or the deepest pockets.
For the record, we had no sponser in 2002 and prior. Only this year. In 2002 we won all three world finals without a sponser. We have money in every piece of equipment in our van, nothing was given to us for free. We did get most at employee purchase price, but most would have that ability if they wanted to build a world class vehicle. We competed for 10 years, obtaining 4 World Championships and 9 World records before we were ever considered for sponsorship.
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I think that limiting power in the larger classes is just a SWELL idea. Since we are making all of these smaller classes why not limit the larger classes also So it seems like it is easy to be loud in SS. By the way the rated 4 ohm power on a bd 1500 and the MTX 1501 is 750 watts. So that would put them at only 24,000 watts and mine at 21,000 watts and Another 5-8 Competitor who was in between the two of us competiting with quads was 4 ohm rated at 24 2000d's rated 4 ohm power was 24,000 watts.
For the record Michael Hughes 4 ohm rated power would be ( if they rated at 4 ohms 312.5) 5000 watts.
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quote:Originally posted by Will Alfonso: I think that limiting power in the larger classes is just a SWELL idea. Since we are making all of these smaller classes why not limit the larger classes also So it seems like it is easy to be loud in SS. By the way the rated 4 ohm power on a bd 1500 and the MTX 1501 is 750 watts. So that would put them at only 24,000 watts and mine at 21,000 watts and Another 5-8 Competitor who was in between the two of us competiting with quads was 4 ohm rated at 24 2000d's rated 4 ohm power was 24,000 watts.
For the record Michael Hughes 4 ohm rated power would be ( if they rated at 4 ohms 312.5) 5000 watts.
thats not the way it was done back in the day, it was done at full power rating 12v...
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