I can see this as a hardship for the SS and EX cars, but many of them have their own shop to hosts some show...which would be good for locals to sse their cars on display.
As for street cars, they are street cars right
And if you want to tow them..fine, but that does use gas and put milage on a more expensive vehicle, so that is your choice.
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I think there should be limited amounts of shows in a given area. To me the problem seems there are always what I call "point shows" every season. A lot of these types of shows are found late in the year when there appears to be show on top of show just so people can get the rest of their needed points. The less total shows means the more people would show up to the ones you actually have. Limiting the amount of shows in an area is also a good idea for bringing more spectators. Spectators do get bored with seeing the same people at the same event all the time. Once it gets boring to them they will stop coming. These spectators are the ones we need to be turning into competitors; so keeping them interested is the name of the game. I wouldn't say to have any show with no points at all. How about having the "Certified Event" where you can obtain your certified score and get 1x points. I also believe certified scores should be limited to these Certified Events only. In other words get rid of the 2x events we have now. Having fewer Certified Events would mean more people would have to show up to get their certified score. This makes for much larger turnouts at these events since it won't be as easy to run around and get your certified score anymore. There are a lot more ideas for both competitors and spectators, just gotta find ways to put them into words.
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This is a very interesting idea,of course it would kill my chase for the points rec but it's still an even level playin feild for the points chasers.I'm for any format that brings in more retail support and attendance to local shows!I have yet found any repercussions with this idea.This is a very good idea,I'm all for it.
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Yeah Steve good point, how many points do we need then? If is 100, I' don't like the idea. Sorry Terry but I can't do as many shows as you, I wish I could.
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quote:Originally posted by piposs3-4: Yeah Steve good point, how many points do we need then? If is 100, I' don't like the idea. Sorry Terry but I can't do as many shows as you, I wish I could.
100 points. Thats 13 shows you must place 1st at. Not everyone will place 1st there for you must go to extra events. Even if you place 4th at every show, thats only 20 shows. Chances are you wont place 4th at every show because classes are not always filled.
This would get more people out to shows. This would make for fuller brackets and have more head to head competition.
Look at it this way ... lets say you went to 8 shows x6 points ( third place )is 48 points and 3-3x multi point events at 3rd place =3x18=54 points added to 48 points is 102 points. Take away the multi point status and you have to go to at least 4 more shows placing 3rd or better to get enough points. The idea is only asking for competitors to go to 4 more shows a year roughly.
By the way, there are all my thoughts and NOT THOSE of the dBDRA
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Well, that's a good idea, but assuming you live in an aera that has a lot of events. In a 600 miles radius from my home there was (cound them) 1 3X (Toronto) a couple of 2X (In upstate NY and in Gatineau) and a couple of 1X too. All of them were at least 4 hours drive from my home.
I can say honestly that i'm moving to Extreme in 2004, and i plan to get my 100 points and top 15, but doing this, it will prove undoable for me. I'm not willing to drive 16+ hours to get to DBDrag events every weekends...
quote:Originally posted by Powermarc: Well, that's a good idean, but assuming ou live in an aera that has a lot of events. In a 600 miles radius from my home there was (cound them) 1 3X (Toronto) a couple of 2X (In upstate NY and in Gatineau) and a couple of 1X too. All of them were at least 4 hours drive from my home.
I can say honestly that i'm moving to Extreme in 2004, and i plan to get my 100 points and top 15, but doing this, it will prove undoable for me. I'm not willing to drive 16+ hours to get to DBDrag events every weekends...
This was also mentioned to get more retailer involvment going on. More supporting retailers more points.
How do we do that .... better rules, more classes and for competitors to SUPPORT THEIR LOCAL RETAILER!!!!!
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YAY...then the people in Canada will be even more screwed because there aren't that many single pointers an that would mean we would have t3o do double or triple the number of 8 hour drives to get our points
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quote:Originally posted by dBSteve: Multi point events only count for a certified score and 1X the points.
Then it wouldn't be a multi point event now would it
Seriously though, if you were to do this, then there would need to be some kind of handicap for states that don't get that many shows, that would be the only FAIR way to do it.
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I am in pa. I had to drive everywere to get my points this last year. Dont tell me I to go to a ton of 1 point shows. That is a lot of driving. I like 50 points from 1 point shows. and the rest from 2 and 3 point shows
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Hell no!! No way I could do that. Seriously would be impossible, I go to school and work, finding that many days away from studying or work would be impossible.
And the money in gas alone would run me dry just going to these events. I like it the way it is, the way it is is really the only way I can do it, and even if I could do it money wise, the time thing still wouldnt allow me.
So I say no way to this, not even a second thought Steve. I understand totally where you are going with this, by supporting local retailers and db drag shows, but this is not the right way to do it.
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We have used a system in Sweden that means you need 40 points OR have been to at least 5 competitions to be able to attend Swedish finals. But we don't have nearly as many competitions or competitors over here as in the US so we need as many people at finals as possible but we need them to attend shows as well during the year.
I think a minimum number of shows is a good way to increase the attendance at shows, this means you just can't go to a few 3X comps and that's all you need to get to finals. But hey I'm European so I am not saying what will or will not work in the US
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Do all that then still sock me $40.00-$85.00 for a double or triple type event. I can handle just about everything that has been brought up to this point but, that would be past my level of willingness.
It needs to be about who is the loudest, not who has more shows available to them. I feel for the Canadians! I still really like the points race and plan to compete for a jacket myself so don't take my comments as being down on points.
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100 points + top 15 score --street 75 points + top 15 score -- SS 50 points + top 15 score -- Extreme
just a thought
also might consider this too
13 shows to qualify each show fee 20.00 + 20.00 (fuel 15gals)+ 8.00 (food,drink 1 person) per show not including wear and tear or other expenses. Thats 624.00 then add + cost to goto finals + entry fee + hotel + travel expenses.
guy puts a 2,000.00 setup in his car and has to spend another 1,200+ competing to get a possible trophy and maybe some prize money.
might keep that in mind when considering how many points are needed to goto finals. My extreme van to tow runs me about 100.00 per 400 mile round trip(example: okc to dallas back to okc).
Granted you want to further the sport but making it too costly needs to be considered.
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If you do that i'm willing to bet Canadian support will drop even more.. there just isn't enough competitions around here to get 100 points with single point events alone.. its hard enough with double point events..
maybe say at least half the points must be from 1x point events.. but not all..
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