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Chad_Sidgerstein
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yeah your right-even zapcos got an asain line now-2 bad
but the fuse would work-make it a 5second burp like a short enduro and wayne could contract out to sell fuses and fuse holders to all members who want to compete in street for finals
limit the power and you dont have to limit by msrp so the high quality amps cuold be used without an avantage

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Chris Dilbeck
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quote:
Originally posted by Chad_Sidgerstein:
yeah your right-even zapcos got an asain line now-2 bad
but the fuse would work-make it a 5second burp like a short enduro and wayne could contract out to sell fuses and fuse holders to all members who want to compete in street for finals
limit the power and you dont have to limit by msrp so the high quality amps cuold be used without an avantage

The fuse thing would definitely not work as people would simply modifiy the amplifier internlly with a fuse soldered inside the amp or even just a straight bypass for the fuse internally. I can think of a dozen amplifiers right now where the backside of the fuses coule be modified in minutes to pass a fuse test. It wouldn't be as safe as having the fuses functioning, but you could stick any fuse in there and make it a non-functioning fuse.

Or manufacturers will equip their big dog SPL Amplifiers with fuses that they know will not hold up for very long or daily driving and just inform people that they will have to upgrade to a larger fuse for daily driving or certain loads. Fuses are as easily manipulated as anything. Not to mention there are a lot of old amplifiers out there that do not utilize internal fuses. They recommended an external fuse, and I know that I have passed ungodly currents through larger ANL/blade/wafer fuses for short periods of time that would have melted the little plastic fuses that come in most amplifiers today.

There are too many loop holes and/or cheats that will be manipulated with a fuse rating rule. I can name a dozen more off the top of my head if you'd like to take the time to read through them.

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i like the addition of lower class, dont think it should be split by ported and non-ported, the msrp thing i dont think would work, what would keep company x from setting the msrp low, no one says you have to sell for msrp.just my opinion.

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quote:
Originally posted by pierced:
i like the addition of lower class, dont think it should be split by ported and non-ported, the msrp thing i dont think would work, what would keep company x from setting the msrp low, no one says you have to sell for msrp.just my opinion.

Manufacturers have to set the MSRP on a product as a benchmark price. There isn't much product sold at MSRP anymore, but it is still set. The manufacturers can't set the price too low because dealers must have room to sell the products and make some money from the sales or there will be a backlash against the manufacturer. If a manufacturer were to introduce an amplifier an price it at or near the actual dealer cost then you can bet that there would be a lot of pissed off dealers who would be looking at other product lines real fast. Dropping the bottom out of the MSRP would be counterproductive for any manufacturer considering their long term sales.
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