I think that I have said too much....................I must go now................the SPL Ninja's are upon me Need more power? UP YOURS!! with Excessive Amperage! Posts: 6070 | From: Northern California | Registered: Nov 1999
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quote:Originally posted by orphan440: I really do think that most of the people will be honest and move up as long as there is another street class waiting for them to play in. Its seems to me that for the most part seasoned competitors stayed out of USACIs basic stock classes this year which was formed as an entry level class to get new competitors to stay away from the so called pros(the same thing I see this trying to do). It seemed to work very very well over there and there were alot more stock competitors this year. Now, you will always have shops who help people and or professionals helping people in the class but that is to be expected, you can't just tell people no I won't help you out when there is friendship and or money involved, but it will still get new people involved in dbdragracing regardless of who is helping them, and therefore put more money into the sport and stores/manufactures. I don't see any of the top calibar street competitors really wanting to compete in that class year in and year out and if someone really tried to stay in it after 1 year, I think the riducule and embarresment would be enough to get them out. If not I think it would only be like 1 or two people trying to get around the rule but I guess I just don't really believe anyone would need to do that(maybe I'm nieve). Even in 2002 there were only like 2 or 3 that got around the move up rule but I know for a fact that none of them would have done it if they had somewhere else to go like an upper pro street. These are my thoughts, I really like this idea though. Now can I have my cdplayer outside the car
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David Alfaro
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My post removed, when it had the same content at other posts in the thread? I made no rude comments? I made no flames? It was a sensible suggestion, the same suggestion that others have later made (this "was" the second reply)
Please let me have a written explanation of the post bieng removed, including an appology, that represents Mr Harris.
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Posts: 831 | From: England | Registered: May 2000
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quote:Originally posted by orphan440: I really do think that most of the people will be honest and move up as long as there is another street class waiting for them to play in. I don't see any of the top calibar street competitors really wanting to compete in that class year in and year out and if someone really tried to stay in it after 1 year, I think the riducule and embarresment would be enough to get them out.
I agree with this. If you are a veteran, stay out of the lower street classes. (this is assuming the 2004 rules will add some new street classes.)
Mark
-------------------- 4TH PLACE 2002 WORLD FINALS S 3-4 TEAM KRAZY 8'S EAST COAST 147.5dB 1973 VW BUG 2001 JEEP CHEROKEE Posts: 501 | From: Florida | Registered: Aug 2002
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Last night, I made a good suggestion about adding a Pro Street class. it seems to have disappeared. There was nothing negative in the post at all. Did someone delete it????
I'll try to repeat it:
Keep Street A and Street B. Add a move up to Pro Street if you finished "in the money" at DB Drag Finals. That refers to 1st, 2nd, or 3rd place. (Doesn't the DBDRA still give out prize money at finals to the top 3 in each class?)
Add a Pro Street class that would become the ultimate street class. This would be both a class for experienced street competitors, but also it allows for alot of "local guy" setups to be competitive without having to get smeared in SuperStreet.
Here is my proposal for a PRo Street:
1) Keep the rules the same as Srteet A and Street B. They are good rules and there are very few loopholes. 2) Allow Pro Street competitors to run and combination of size and quantity of woofer(s). This would accomodate those people with (6) 10s in a hatchback,(4) 15s in an SUV, etc a Street class to play within. By keeping with the current street rules (in the cargo area and passing the string test), there is only so much room in a "cargo area" to house equipment. It would be fun to see what kind of combos that competitors put together. 3) Remove the amplifier limit in PRo Street. Since we are already limited by the batteries, let Pro Street guys run as many amps as they want. There is only so much power that can be sucked from a couple of batteries. Again, this would allow for some pretty wild combos. DBDRA may want to consider letting PRo Street have an additional battery over Street B (that would make a total of 3 batteries.)
My idea of a PRo Street would end up crowning the ultimate and loudest "street" vehicle, while still maintaining vehicle credibilty. This PRo Street would really challenge the creative minds of the current crop of top street competiors. This kind of challenge "to be the best" should free up space in Street A and Street B for new and rising competitors.
Finally, you may want to consider allowing "external controls" in such a class.
-------------------- Andrew Harper
2002 STREET 3-4 6th Place World Finals 2003 Street B 2nd Place Spring Break Nationals Posts: 1702 | From: Vero Beach, FL | Registered: Jul 2001
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well here are some things I have been looking at:
1st off, alot of people are saying that is too expensive, "it cost to much to move up" well, I look at it like this, keeping the same car, one 4kw would bring in about 12-2000$ tht would buy lot of batteries, and a few amps too....should I tlk bout the crown? I don't think my ENTIRE SS1-2 st up from last season cost over 6 grand. "to expensive to move up" HAHAHAHA
2nd, I think there is 3 options on keping pro's out of street: (that I have seen so far, that are worth a try, IMO) 1> sids Idea, this alone would keep alot of the "points chaser" cars that the higher class's people use to get points. AND it would mke them show some of the ever so popular SS and Extreem cars, more often. keeping pros from going to finals???? well, you could use termpro as a database, and cross reference the "invite names" to see if they have competed (at finals) before, BUT alot of folks go by team names, or wer part of finals team, both would be untrackable. 2> move up rule, to pro street. I don't think this is good idea, simply becuse it would take up 2 classes. with as much support for SS1 that's been shown, I think we need it, AND th need for smaller street class with single 10's & 12's. AND like noted all ready, there is not going to be a big diffrence between the two sets (S & PS) so why waist the classes? lol, lets just invite 30 street people in each of of presen classes. 3> My idea, I m not going to make this reply bigger, so I will re`reply it below....
quote:Originally posted by jarfunkz: in the beginning steve i talked about a maditory vehicle move up... not all of us have 50 cousins we can let use the vehicle for a season... sure you can use it at the season, but we had to give all our vehicle info at finals, find all those things that we had to give at finals and check the vehicles number at each show or only at finals.
Buying another $1000 CRX and using all the pro's equipment is a simple, easy way around this one.
that is very true, so what if we had the person as well needs to change classes along with the vehicle?
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street a is almost as loud now as ss1-2 3 years ago. street b isn't too far behind old ss3-4 vehicles. this does mean people are getting louder and progress is being made. but sometimes your downfall is that you have had too much progress made. i say limit street A to 2 1000d or 1 2000d type amps, make it enduro, average of atleast 15 seconds, car on and what not, and street b, double street A. yeah i know power rating and what not, but we all know what the 1000d amps are, and the 2000d amps are as well...
it seems that everyone is saying its too hard to police this stuff... perhaps everyone is getting lazy, meca doesn't have have problems, maybe have your product needs to be tested accurately if it is going to be used in dbdrag...
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