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If you think people will only buy bigger amps if quads are banned are having a pipe dream. People who want lots of power will just buy more big amps with quads. If I wasnt so lazy, you would have seen 64 amps and quads in our 5-8 van. Imagine a 168.9 in super street!!! Also, those who keep saying that everyone will have to run the big JBL amp with duals obviously havent used the JBLs.
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Lots of people do pay retail, those would be the ones that don't post on here. Not everyone has a hook up or sponsorship. Car audio companies do dictate what goes on. If I gave someone money or product I would expect to have a say in what is done with it. Depending on how much I gave I would expect my say to be proportional. This happens all the time, lobbying groups and government go hand and hand in this regard. The NRA would be another good example, they pour money into their cause and it works pretty well for them.
To call it political would be fine with me however, those doing so fail to recognize the fact that the advantages they enjoy come largely as a result of politics. The world revolves on politics it is everywhere home, work, sports, etc. Anything that has a governing body falls in this grouping and that would be pretty much everything!
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quote:Originally posted by ea1: PS: Now that I think about it, even if Company X decided to sponsor DB Drag with a VERY large sum of money, that would probably hurt our sport as it would be considered a biased organization (toward said company) by MANY people.
quote:Originally posted by Bobby Riley: If you think people will only buy bigger amps if quads are banned are having a pipe dream. People who want lots of power will just buy more big amps with quads. If I wasnt so lazy, you would have seen 64 amps and quads in our 5-8 van. Imagine a 168.9 in super street!!! Also, those who keep saying that everyone will have to run the big JBL amp with duals obviously havent used the JBLs.
As i stated elsewhere...This is far from reality. You know damn well there is no woofer in the world that will take that power. This argument holds absolutely no grounds here.....
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As far as there not being a woofer that can handle that much power, you can find ways to make it work. Loading the woofers will help with the power handling. What do you think was going on with the Pioneer truck? Anyway, even if there are zero woofers to handle that power someone will make one! If you really look at it 2 CROWNS vs. 4 D3's or 8 bd 1501's, people are already putting that much power into woofers so why do you keep saying it can't be done? Sounds like it can and has to me.......
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quote:Originally posted by Bobby Riley: If you think people will only buy bigger amps if quads are banned are having a pipe dream. People who want lots of power will just buy more big amps with quads. If I wasnt so lazy, you would have seen 64 amps and quads in our 5-8 van. Imagine a 168.9 in super street!!! Also, those who keep saying that everyone will have to run the big JBL amp with duals obviously havent used the JBLs.
As i stated elsewhere...This is far from reality. You know damn well there is no woofer in the world that will take that power. This argument holds absolutely no grounds here.....
We have 8 BD1500s on each of our Quad 18's in our No Wall van. Made it through all of testing and finals on the same two speakers and they are still fine. I have confidence the same would hold true with our big van in 5-8.
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when was the last time interstate/optima/exide bought a booth at finals???
yet we allow the continued use of their products.
just using this as a point aginst those of you that think noone who had a booth at finals makes a difference
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Ho Alternators, Turbostart and X-static all have 16volt+ batteries and they all had booths at finals.
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quote:Originally posted by MEMPHIS FORCE: And one other idea.......and this is just an idea........
I say if a ban on quads is indeed what is wanted, then do it like this maybe....If your Quad is shown at CES in your booth as an inventory item then it can be used if not then it is banned from use. If a manufacture shows the woofer in their booth at CES then this generally means it is avaliable to all of their dealers and customers of those dealers.
just an idea to think about....
In my humble opinion, that is the most intelligent and well thought out statement made in regard to this topic so far. It seems to me that there are manufacturers such as Resonant Engineering, Memphis, and probably a couple of others who have signifficant tooling costs and who produce Quads as a part of their normal product offerings. It would be easy enough to track those manufacturers who are at CES showing their products as part of their normal line up.
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quote:Originally posted by Bobby Riley: Ho Alternators, Turbostart and X-static all have 16volt+ batteries and they all had booths at finals.
Good point, those are manufacturers who are supporting our industry. Yet many people want to ban 16 volt products. That would be counterproductive, as it would only serve to drive manufacturers who currently support DB Drag and the retailers who sell their products.
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back to basics , ok if a manufacture introduces a quad as part of their line up and doesnt cost a arm and leg to purchase yes good idea form the memphis people , but we gotta rememebr we are headed back to basic spl , and if other companies follow suite then what happens ,to keep quads in the game limit their power usage to make it even lol instaed of 8 amps make the quads use 4 amps just as guys that have duals using 4 amps also , just a thought ,but we will see when rule get here
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Wayne, please don't kick my but next time you will see me, it is just a joke
Seriously:
I would like to see that quads stay in dB Drag.
I think that dBDRA should be leader in car audio industry and industry should folow dBDRA, not in other way. 10 years ago no one used DVC, now QVC is almost standard in industry except for few mega big companies.
Peter
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