quote:Originally posted by russellburrows: Time to say bye,bye to the 20 to 80 hertz rule in favor of a sixty hertz cap for extreme and a 50 hertz cap for super street and a 40 or 45 hertz cap for regular street.
Time to have a real entry category with a frequency cap of 40 hertz.
Time to change for the better.
Have you lost your mind!!!
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yes yes ban 16 volt batts get rid of them for super street alt above 16volts ok but keep what the majority of cusumers buy and thats 12volt batts!!!
-------------------- In Loving Memory, David Alfaro
2008 US.Top Cert.Street C 158.4 2008 25-48 No-wall NSPL World Champion,World Record 159.0 2007 U.S.Top Cert. Street A,B,C 2005 Db Drag Street A World Champion 2004 Db Drag US. record 642 points 2003 Db Drag Points World Champion http://www.maxxsonics.com/
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quote:Originally posted by THE-SCRAPER: yes yes ban 16 volt batts get rid of them for super street alt above 16volts ok but keep what the majority of cusumers buy and thats 12volt batts!!!
I agree, get rid of all Super Street and Extreme competitors, except for the 5-10 that ran 12 volts.
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quote:Originally posted by THE-SCRAPER: yes yes ban 16 volt batts get rid of them for super street alt above 16volts ok but keep what the majority of cusumers buy and thats 12volt batts!!!
I agree, get rid of all Super Street and Extreme competitors, except for the 5-10 that ran 12 volts.
Its odd you can look at the 16v system issue that way but not the quads...gee I wonder why that is
quote:Originally posted by THE-SCRAPER: yes yes ban 16 volt batts get rid of them for super street alt above 16volts ok but keep what the majority of cusumers buy and thats 12volt batts!!!
I agree, get rid of all Super Street and Extreme competitors, except for the 5-10 that ran 12 volts.
Its odd you can look at the 16v system issue that way but not the quads...gee I wonder why that is
A speaker can be very easily changed. An entire battery rack cannot. Quads have only been available for 2 years. 16 volt has been allowed since db drag started. The similarities between the two issues are non existant.
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I would say, however, that if we must go to 12 volt systems, we will still be the loudest in our class. Anyone want to make a bet?
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bobby, jeez, let it go man, its not you vs dbdrag. sorry if this offends anyone, but i stuck up for you in the past, i was one of the only people who congradulated you on your NW win, and said you were well within the rules, but don't be like this. yes you know there are some people that are having problems with you and alan right now on termpro, it does not best suit you to give them more fuel for their misplaced anger, i know both of you are better than that.
quote:Originally posted by jarfunkz: bobby, jeez, let it go man, its not you vs dbdrag. sorry if this offends anyone, but i stuck up for you in the past, i was one of the only people who congradulated you on your NW win, and said you were well within the rules, but don't be like this. yes you know there are some people that are having problems with you and alan right now on termpro, it does not best suit you to give them more fuel for their misplaced anger, i know both of you are better than that.
It has been pretty boring on here as of late. I am just entertaining myself. DB Drag is my hobby and it will never get as serious for me as some might think. The one thing I know how to do well is to stir sh!t.
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quote:Originally posted by Bobby Riley: >>Klip<< The one thing I know how to do well is to stir sh!t.
Now see,... I beg to differ...
quote:Eight time SPL World Champions-----18 SPL World Records DB Drag == IASCA == USACi
Thats impressive for someone that is only good at something else... IMO!
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quote:Originally posted by Bobby Riley: >>Klip<< The one thing I know how to do well is to stir sh!t.
Now see,... I beg to differ...
quote:Eight time SPL World Champions-----18 SPL World Records DB Drag == IASCA == USACi
Thats impressive for someone that is only good at something else... IMO!
Thanks for noticing!!!
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quote:Originally posted by TRENDSETTER: I guess we will be heading back to the stone ages!!!!
Nope! Time to show the "money is no object" install the back door in favor of the real street installs where if you win it is due to being the better install instead of the deeper pockets.
Time to say bye,bye to the 20 to 80 hertz rule in favor of a sixty hertz cap for extreme and a 50 hertz cap for super street and a 40 or 45 hertz cap for regular street.
Time to have a real entry category with a frequency cap of 40 hertz.
Time to say bye,bye to 16 volts and quads.
Time to change for the better.
I was with you all the way until you go to the line about 16 volt and quads. There should be more entry level classes that are well defined and Are Invited to finals, Street should be left completely alone, but with a name change that notes it is really more of an Advanced Street class. But then In my opinion 16 volt should stay in Super Street and Extreme, followed by Quads still being allowed in Extreme but no other class. (just my humble opinions)
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quote:Originally posted by Sid Grice: dB Drag racing is considered a high standard of competition, and has a resputation of being "best of the best".
I believe it would be in the best interest of everyone, if there would be a way to keep the high level of recognition AND create a introduction for new competitors. With many sound off competitions being formed at a rapid pace, we (dB Drag members) must create a way to increase participation.
Sid, you had a great post. However, I would point out that the DB Drag image you have of yourself may be seen through rose tinted glasses. I have heard from MANY people that DB Drag is just too expensive to compete in, and these are guys who have only started showing in the last year. That is the impression they get from talking with people and hanging out. Just like IASCA SQ judges have reputations for being hard Asses over tiny nit pick rules.
You can explain and educate all you want, but the perception is already engrained in a large number of people. DB Drag needs to make these new guys feel like they are DB Drags new focus, but they need to do it in a way where they keep existing competitors happy and a reputation for being tough.
To do this, we need to consolidate the classes with less competitors in them some, leave existing street classes alone, and then add some new street classes that are MUCH more strict then the current ones. (ie take our current street class and leave it untouched, but call it pro street, or advanced street, something like that, then focus on a couple of new classes that WILL go to finals with the pionts system.
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quote:Originally posted by THE-SCRAPER: yes yes ban 16 volt batts get rid of them for super street alt above 16volts ok but keep what the majority of cusumers buy and thats 12volt batts!!!
I agree, get rid of all Super Street and Extreme competitors, except for the 5-10 that ran 12 volts.
banning 16volt batts would not elimate competitors just like banning of quads cargos/box behind front door jam and other rule changes etc from street and super street didn't get rid of most competitors they have to adjust to the rules. like street,super street should be limited to 12 volt batts!!remeber this is a 12volt industry!! hope they don't start selling 16 volt news magazines ?
-------------------- In Loving Memory, David Alfaro
2008 US.Top Cert.Street C 158.4 2008 25-48 No-wall NSPL World Champion,World Record 159.0 2007 U.S.Top Cert. Street A,B,C 2005 Db Drag Street A World Champion 2004 Db Drag US. record 642 points 2003 Db Drag Points World Champion http://www.maxxsonics.com/
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quote:Originally posted by THE-SCRAPER: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Bobby Riley: [qb] I would say, however, that if we must go to 12 volt systems, we will still be the loudest in our class. Anyone want to make a bet?
now thats what im talkin about! hell yeah!thats confidence in a possible rule change situation right?like myself,most competitors are not in a position to make such bets ,but thats good for the 12 volt idea.you saying 12 volts wouldn't make ya any diff?banning 16 volt batts from super street would still make the playing feild level for all SS competitors.like quads some are stuck with then like myself but I sold 2 already to locals. I'm quite sure 16 volts batts would be more difficult to sell but who knows you said earlier yall sold 300 in past two years amd 24 before usac finals thats damn good, so if 16volt batts are banned no prob? Bobby maybe its the fact that I just can't afford 16 volt batts
-------------------- In Loving Memory, David Alfaro
2008 US.Top Cert.Street C 158.4 2008 25-48 No-wall NSPL World Champion,World Record 159.0 2007 U.S.Top Cert. Street A,B,C 2005 Db Drag Street A World Champion 2004 Db Drag US. record 642 points 2003 Db Drag Points World Champion http://www.maxxsonics.com/
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quote:Originally posted by THE-SCRAPER: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Bobby Riley: [qb] I would say, however, that if we must go to 12 volt systems, we will still be the loudest in our class. Anyone want to make a bet?
now thats what im talkin about! hell yeah!thats confidence in a possible rule change situation right?like myself,most competitors are not in a position to make such bets ,but thats good for the 12 volt idea.you saying 12 volts wouldn't make ya any diff?banning 16 volt batts from super street would still make the playing feild level for all SS competitors.like quads some are stuck with then like myself but I sold 2 already to locals. I'm quite sure 16 volts batts would be more difficult to sell but who knows you said earlier yall sold 300 in past two years amd 24 before usac finals thats damn good, so if 16volt batts are banned no prob? Bobby maybe its the fact that I just can't afford 16 volt batts
16v battery set up with equal Ah is actually cheaper with 16v set ups, buying 8v batteries. some amps do not like 16v, some do, some of us have to run a 12v line from the front just to use our head unit, some can use their 12v from the back, its all preference and what you feel comfortable doing.
yellow top is 55ah, standard 8v is 165 ah, 3 times the Ah power, that means a 12v set up with 3 yellow tops would equal the Ah of 2 8v for a 16v set up, 16= cheaper. next we got those sp1700 batteries, those are what 72 Ah each? roughly 2 1/4 of them equal the 16v set up of 2 8v, again 16v cheaper.
quote:Originally posted by THE-SCRAPER: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Bobby Riley: [qb] I would say, however, that if we must go to 12 volt systems, we will still be the loudest in our class. Anyone want to make a bet?
now thats what im talkin about! hell yeah!thats confidence in a possible rule change situation right?like myself,most competitors are not in a position to make such bets ,but thats good for the 12 volt idea.you saying 12 volts wouldn't make ya any diff?banning 16 volt batts from super street would still make the playing feild level for all SS competitors.like quads some are stuck with then like myself but I sold 2 already to locals. I'm quite sure 16 volts batts would be more difficult to sell but who knows you said earlier yall sold 300 in past two years amd 24 before usac finals thats damn good, so if 16volt batts are banned no prob? Bobby maybe its the fact that I just can't afford 16 volt batts
16v battery set up with equal Ah is actually cheaper with 16v set ups, buying 8v batteries. some amps do not like 16v, some do, some of us have to run a 12v line from the front just to use our head unit, some can use their 12v from the back, its all preference and what you feel co
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