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Classes: Street sponsored by Audiobahn & Rockford Fosgate Street A Street B
Street A & B stay the way they are. A class for the bigger street guys & girls where money will still be a large factor in who wins and scores will be reaching 160's.
What is Street "Sponsored"?
It's a way to get more manufacturer involvement AND have a completely even playing field for competitors. Best of both worlds. The class would be based on Street A with all the same rules, except that the subs & amp(s) will be identical for each competitor or very close to it.
Wayne will need to talk to some of the major car audio companies and find some interest. This should be easy as it will create more sales and get them recognition. Just what every manufacturer wants these days.
My ideal thoughts would be 2 or 3 major manufacturers. Someone who sells product all over the states and possibly all over the world. (possible problem: does this HAVE to be a world wide solution?) Have the manufacturer select a few certain products to be considered for this class. Have Wayne test the equipment and determine which models would be most equal. My thoughts would be 2 - 12's and a 1000 - 15000W amp, with a "street price" of $1000. A very normal system these days. That should allow for quality equipment and at a reasonable price. A competitor would still be spending another $500 to finish the system (deck, battery, wiring, box, etc). $1500 seems reasonable enough for an entire system that can get to world finals and win!!!!!!
Ok, back to it: I think 2 or 3 manufacturers would be ideal because it would keep more people interested. example: I for one would have no interest in supporting the class if one or two of the certain manufacturers that I've come to despise are the sponsor. However, it would be extremely cool if a competitor hated one sponsor and loved the other. Already a built in battle!
There would need to be some checks and balances put in place to keep amps and subs from being modified and upgraded, but I think a small supply of subs & amps for finals and a good picture of the inside of the amp should keep that in check. If in doubt, swap the equipment for new stuff provided by the sponsor to the dbdra for use at finals. If the number is way off, obviously something had been modded. This would only be a real problem at finals and should not be that hard to deal with.
This class would provide all the benefits posted above and give the everyday guy a chance to compete on a fair level. The differences would simply be the car and the install. That would also shut a lot of people up when it comes to trash talking....or bring out a lot more lol. The system would totally fit into a normal everyday driver and is probably the most popular system sold today to people who enjoy this sport.
These scores would be in the 150 range at best, probably most kids would be 135-142. Just as many of them are at shows now. This would automatically attract new competitors and create some new sales for those that support it.
As another possible way to do it, the dbdra could be the sponsor and make money from selling the equipment. Just another thought. Dealers could be set up, etc. It couldn't be that hard to make it happen. I'd have a few suggestions on quality equipment that fits the bill well. Getting "abuse resistant" equipment would be a necessity.
Well, what you think? Fair and equal and creates much more than just a new class.
-------------------- Jeff President, Sweet Sounds, Inc. Three (3) Time World Champions ('00,'00,'02) Eight (8) Time World Record Holders ('00,'01,'02,'03) www.SweetSounds.com Posts: 2734 | From: Mankato MN | Registered: Jun 1999
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As a thought, each country or region (europe) could have their own sponsors. Each records would only then be region records.
It would be impossible to doth multi venue events across the world, but I don't think that would that bad.
-------------------- Jeff President, Sweet Sounds, Inc. Three (3) Time World Champions ('00,'00,'02) Eight (8) Time World Record Holders ('00,'01,'02,'03) www.SweetSounds.com Posts: 2734 | From: Mankato MN | Registered: Jun 1999
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I would like to see a class like this. It kinda sounds like the installer challenge that draws a hell of a lot of spectators. This would focus on install only.
The only thing I can see being a problem is the sponsors of the class will come under fire from the people in other classes and the interest in the products might cause a small turnout.
This might turn out to be like an extreme class at most shows,i.e. 1 or 2 people in the class.
I also see this not bringing new people into Db Drags because many people at local shows buy used gear or what they can find cheaply. If the class only has one amp/sub combo then this class is put out of the reach of the casual competitor at a local show.
-------------------- Just some thoughts from a nobody. Posts: 3683 | From: Lakewood,Ohio | Registered: Aug 2003
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quote:Originally posted by *1LOWSUV*: So do we lose "Mini-Street?
I would like a Street class that doesn't go to finals but gets points for their Stats page.
Mini street is for those that want a more laid back show, less competitve and have no desire to attend world finals.
This class would be just like the current street classes, but AFFORDABLE!
This is something that people have been wanting to years now.
-------------------- Jeff President, Sweet Sounds, Inc. Three (3) Time World Champions ('00,'00,'02) Eight (8) Time World Record Holders ('00,'01,'02,'03) www.SweetSounds.com Posts: 2734 | From: Mankato MN | Registered: Jun 1999
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I still think that we need a Street and Pro-Street classes, and leave the rules as they are now, Pro-Street would be for anyone that has attended finals, and we re-instate the move up rule for people that are in Street, they must move to Pro-street or higher the following season.
However, I do think that there needs to be something about the battery location, and having to remain stock and not being able to "trim as needed"
I think that I have said too much....................I must go now................the SPL Ninja's are upon me Need more power? UP YOURS!! with Excessive Amperage! Posts: 6070 | From: Northern California | Registered: Nov 1999
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I am the owner of Sonic FX and I would be interested in this type of format.. maybe all the equipment can be sent through Wayne so that way the manufactures wouldnt know who got what equipment just a thought later Doug
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I think this is a good idea. I know of a couple of people that would compete in this class.
-------------------- Team Vogel 2002 Street 3-4 World Finalist 2004 Extreme 1 World Finalist 8th place Posts: 149 | From: Broken Arrow, OK | Registered: May 2002
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street is expensive, yes, but look at the average joe, for a sample, 2 D2's used 700$ 2used L7's 300$ so your looking at 1grand average? and that typical, all this talk of sponsrship, blablbla, last year in SS1-2 I did not buy ONE piece of equipment at regular retail....not one. if your loud, you get deals, plain and simple. IF street is going to be a REAL dbdrag class it needs to be opened up. Not locked down. I suggested something like your proposal a few weeks go, and I ws kinda joking....seriouly, I will be willin to bet the cost most top 25 street compitiors paid for electronics is less than 2000$ all ready.
my opinion, ya or nay, I say open up street to ONE standard battery 1700 size or smaller, AND remove all amp limitations. Then they guys who DID pay full retail on 4000 dollr amps could save 2500$ buy switching to 4 1000D's or 2 D3's or 4 D2's.......it is better for ALL manufactures not just a selected few.
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AND let me add, s a retailer, you should kinda get this....
regional sales restricions, Or very RIGID, sales agrement that DO NOT low you to sell some brnds, OR makeing it so one ONE or TWO shops cn cary it for a certian ara code. so what? Now evry shop that DON'T sell them brands is going to take a HUGE hit. Hell, I don't even think I can get audiobahn localy anymore......or DD. or Onyx, or I could name 20 brnds I can't buy localy. So now I see one of them becomming the "manufacture of choice" no what? you have locl shops fighting to get retail rights on them products.....
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O.K. this problem is easily solved. If you want to make street fair for everyone then you should limit the amout of current that is availible to use. This is easily acomplished with simple fuses. Make everyone have an ANL fuse holder under the hood and limit the classes by fuses. Example: street a retains all previous rules, but is limited to a 125amp fuse between the front battery and the back, and street b can be limited to a 200 amp fuse. If the fuse blows you are out.Just my 2cents
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-------------------- Ronal Murphy Pres. Team Louder T-3 Audio Engineer Posts: 120 | From: 1 T-3 audio way | Registered: Aug 2001
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or so it seems...... this has been discussed MANY times before....and here are the down falls...
fuses: 1. you could NOT mount it up front, to much area between it nd the amp for someone to hide something 2. fuses have tolerancs just like everything else.....one fuse 50 amp fuse might blow at 45, one might blow at 55....big difference...not IMO, alot closer than having 6000 watt amp go up against a pair of 1000 watt amps...but you see... 3. fuses could be doctored...and it's just more time the judges would ned to spend under the hood... 4. This is one I just though of....I see guys running around with 200 amp chargrs RIGHT UP TILL they re in the lanes....the average joe's 12V battery is probably resting between 12-13.5, now these other folks can charge a 12V battery up to around 16.5 and when they get to the lanes, they re burping with a voltage tht is alot highers than the other guy. Ohms law.... more voltage....needs less amperage to get the same power...so one guy gets allot more power out of that little 50 amp fuse....
Breakers....same reasons...and, there tolerance goes down, every time they are tripped, so "joe" might have tripped his 10 times....now he is at a show with bob who uses a new one for every run...bob can pass 50 amps fine....while joe's blow's (lol) at 40 amps...
street is expensive, yes, but look at the average joe, ...........
The prices I listed would be RETAIL. Just as your suggest people can buy used or get a deal. It's the same either way, my way just starts out lower.
Two D2's and two 9512's retail is >$2000 in street A + wiring + battery + deck.......
It also levels the playing field for equipment!
-------------------- Jeff President, Sweet Sounds, Inc. Three (3) Time World Champions ('00,'00,'02) Eight (8) Time World Record Holders ('00,'01,'02,'03) www.SweetSounds.com Posts: 2734 | From: Mankato MN | Registered: Jun 1999
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