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remember I had a prefab box behind my sliding door jam at 2001 finals and busted a 154.8 with a cargo van
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2008 US.Top Cert.Street C 158.4 2008 25-48 No-wall NSPL World Champion,World Record 159.0 2007 U.S.Top Cert. Street A,B,C 2005 Db Drag Street A World Champion 2004 Db Drag US. record 642 points 2003 Db Drag Points World Champion http://www.maxxsonics.com/
Back in 02 my girlfriend said I had to make a choice between her and DB Drag....I told that b-tch I've made harder decisions at the Coke machine. Posts: 4141 | From: Suitland,MD USA | Registered: Sep 2001
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quote:Originally posted by Mike_Stiers: If cargo vans are aloud back in street and are allowed to push the boxes forward then I will have one. I am sick of people trying to make classes to fit them and change rules to better themselves and hold others back. I've had multiple chances to use a Rex because we had one collecting dust within a team and Vans are a dime a dozen around here lol. But I stuck with my daily driver and busted my A$$ only to watch others break that grey area and boldly go were no man has gone before. If this goes through then plan to see me in the lanes with a POS Van and an install that will push the limits of Street.
Agreed 110%
"I am sick of people trying to make classes to fit them and change rules to better themselves and hold others back!"
Leave the rules alone
-------------------- 2005 Florida Street C Champion 2004 SBN Street C Champion 2004 SBN IDBL No Wall Champion 2003 NOPI Nats Street B Champion
quote:Originally posted by loud brown kicker colt: not to stir up to much crap but...perhaps they should make the 4kw illegal in street(and other obvious non streetable amplifiers) & move it up to ss,like the ppl that are using them should have done in the first place.seeing that a few people found a way to evade that rule last year.the amplifier dimension rule would work good at making a true street class.imo if you can't drive around listening to it all day long ,as a daily driver IT IS NOT STREET ANYMORE.
Um hello? The 4kw CAN be daily driven!! Doubt me? Ask yourself this - what is a 4kw? (2 9.0s in one case.) 9.0s play music all day long (better than most amps on the market I may add). Therefore the 4kw can play music.
Do not attempt to ban a single amp just because it makes more power. Heck the JBL 6kw makes more power so we should ban it too?
quote:Originally posted by RFLWagon: Sponsored vehicles aren't permitted either but they are STILL there.....So if the cargo has been banned why not ban the CRX???? Cargos worked so they were banned. Crxs work.....lets ban those
*edit* - no offense in advance bro
Cargo vans (in the true sense) were banned because they are not what people drive around for pleasure to take the family out with etc. You get the point. A CRX IS a vehicle you can take out (and WANT to take out and use) and do whatever.
quote:Originally posted by loud brown kicker colt: not to stir up to much crap but...perhaps they should make the 4kw illegal in street(and other obvious non streetable amplifiers) & move it up to ss,like the ppl that are using them should have done in the first place.seeing that a few people found a way to evade that rule last year.the amplifier dimension rule would work good at making a true street class.imo if you can't drive around listening to it all day long ,as a daily driver IT IS NOT STREET ANYMORE.
Um hello? The 4kw CAN be daily driven!! Doubt me? Ask yourself this - what is a 4kw? (2 9.0s in one case.) 9.0s play music all day long (better than most amps on the market I may add). Therefore the 4kw can play music. Your theory to adapt the rule to suite yourself just got shot down. Sorry.
Steve
Well then smarta$$, instead of bashing everyone's suggestions why don't you come up with a solution that will suite everyone and maybe let the average person that can't afford 9.0's and such like yourself be competitive in street (man am i going to hear it for that one right yota? here comes my bashing)
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quote:Originally posted by loud brown kicker colt: not to stir up to much crap but...perhaps they should make the 4kw illegal in street(and other obvious non streetable amplifiers) & move it up to ss,like the ppl that are using them should have done in the first place.seeing that a few people found a way to evade that rule last year.the amplifier dimension rule would work good at making a true street class.imo if you can't drive around listening to it all day long ,as a daily driver IT IS NOT STREET ANYMORE.
Um hello? The 4kw CAN be daily driven!! Doubt me? Ask yourself this - what is a 4kw? (2 9.0s in one case.) 9.0s play music all day long (better than most amps on the market I may add). Therefore the 4kw can play music. Your theory to adapt the rule to suite yourself just got shot down. Sorry.
Steve
Well then smarta$$, instead of bashing everyone's suggestions why don't you come up with a solution that will suite everyone and maybe let the average person that can't afford 9.0's and such like yourself be competitive in street (man am i going to hear it for that one right yota? here comes my bashing)
Wow you are the absolute model of maturity - I'm a smart ass now! And then to make jokes about my income level and style of living too? Must be nice to be you and sit so high and mighty with $$ everywhere...
BTW - I couldn't afford 4 9.0s, but guess what - I busted my ass so I COULD get them before finals. I knew what I needed to get loud and I did JUST that. Incidentally, they are NOT out of reach for the normal competitor when purchased used as I did.
Furthermore, my posts were NOT intended as bashes. If anyone gets upset at what I've said then I apologize, as I tend to word my posts strongly. Part of debate is to not get pissed when the otherside counters.
-------------------- 2005 Florida Street C Champion 2004 SBN Street C Champion 2004 SBN IDBL No Wall Champion 2003 NOPI Nats Street B Champion
quote:Originally posted by Alemuthafukinjandro: I could have built a SS 9+ vehicle for less money than the Street B car I built this year, and probably placed better at finals.
Your Street B car would have easily placed in SS 9+ at finals Wayne DID want more daily drivers to compete and SS 9+ was the class for them
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Street B..... Decent headunit that won't skip $300 2 4kws.......$4500 (USED ones of course) 2 1700s ($300 each) 4 subs ($200 each)
SS Crap headunit $100 Batteries USED ($400)Workahlic 8 volts 8 of them 8 amps ($250 each) 2 woofs ($300 each) MDF.....6 sheets $120 How do I know this???? I RAN THIS AT FINALS
NEED A CALCULATOR?????? I DON'T.........
I bet my setup is cheaper than some Street A setups.
DO some research!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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who the hell did you see at finals is SS with only 8 8 vols batts???????????Tim Phillips had 34 turbostart on his. You crazy SS is more expensive, amps for less that $300, tell me were I spent about $700ea and I had 8. Unless you are talking about sponsors or competitor prices whitch I don't have. So bottom line SS is more expensive my friend.
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OH YES very crazy! I AM THE ONE with 8 8 volt batteries!!!!!!!!! I took 8th in No Wall. The amps are currently for sale RIGHT NOW on the marketplace. MTX 81000ds. I simply asked you guys to do some research. I figurted everyone would jump to the marketplace and see this. The 8 volt batteries can be purchased from Steve Sorrentino (Team Bada Bing) or the smaller ones from Shaker (I believe)
Oh.......another little side note.....the THUNDERFORCE N.W. van PLACING 3rd HAD THE SAME SYSTEM.......HOW crazy am I NOW???????? The only difference between my van and the Thunderforce van was he ran 20 8 volt........that are half the size half the power half the price. We were doing within 400 watts of eachother. Amp clamp used in both vehicles was THE SAME. If you don't believe me about the small quantity needed to make crazy power ask Gorman Cassidy or Jay Loveless.....both use the same kind of batteries. Neither one of them had more than 20.
I can email some pics of my van if you like. I was simply saying if you buy USED 4 KWs and USED 81000ds then you can pick up all 8 MTX amps for the price of 1 4kw. Got any more ?s this "crazy" person can answer for you??????
Another thing.......I had a close friend there in No WAll ONLY 2 DB down from me using only 2 $30 8 volts and a $300 battcap to power 8 of the same MTX amps. In a JEEP with NO modifications to the vehicle at all. Still doing a 155. I believe he took 11th
So let me rephrase that.....SOME SS classes are cheaper than SOME street classes. Does that sound better????
quote:Originally posted by RFLWagon: OK here's my point.........
Street B..... Decent headunit that won't skip $300 2 4kws.......$4500 (USED ones of course) 2 1700s ($300 each) 4 subs ($200 each)
SS Crap headunit $100 Batteries USED ($400)Workahlic 8 volts 8 of them 8 amps ($250 each) 2 woofs ($300 each) MDF.....6 sheets $120 How do I know this???? I RAN THIS AT FINALS
NEED A CALCULATOR?????? I DON'T.........
I bet my setup is cheaper than some Street A setups.
DO some research!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Actually no, you need to do a tad more research there. Why?
Well, for starters if you pay 4500 for used 4kw's I'll sell you my 9.0s (4 of them = 2 4kw) for 1000 a pop and I will have made a GOOD deal of money. They are for sale at that price if you want them! jk bro
THEN you gotta factor in the actual cost of maintaining a second vehicle, the trailering, a tow vehicle, the added gas usage, etc.
Here is what I ran, and this system is not even close to what it can do. I have just recently found what this truck likes...
3820 - THEN add the gas, the trailer, insurance to that number
SS costs more, that is a simple fact as you are running more batteries, more amps, more MDF, etc. And your tow vehicle's cost. (Or if you daily drive like I did, you loose a LOT in gas milage.) There's more to cost that just equipment.
ps - I think I may have really offended you in previous posts, if so lemme again apologize and buy you a beer or two at next finals.
-------------------- 2005 Florida Street C Champion 2004 SBN Street C Champion 2004 SBN IDBL No Wall Champion 2003 NOPI Nats Street B Champion
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Ok whatever man. My van got 23 MPG on the way to Finals. (what is a trailer?????) So the system YOU used at Finals was MORE then the one I used. I got 8th. You are really missing the point. You know as well as I do that it costs LESS for SS amps then STREET. PERIOD end of story..... I know you want to go ahead and argue. That's fine. I'm NOT going to. You know EXACTLY what I'm talking about. You will NEVER EVER pay more than $2000 for 8 MTX amps if you find used ones. You want to sit here and tell me that you can get 4 9.0s for $2000????? That's B.S. dude. Even going by the retali price directory 1 4 kw is MORE than 8 81s.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING????????
I ran street B for a show. The vehicle I used actually took MORE MDF than the box I used at FINALS.
Obvioiusly I don't know what I'm talking about so I'm done. YOU WIN. Are you gonna sit here and argue that it costs ABOUT the SAME too???? Have a nice day. Oh and Steve......I was never offended. I really don't get offended. I respect your opinion.
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