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I was reading about some issues people have with the legality of some points competitors posted this season.
I know that we had some issues with a promoter taking their time in getting results posted and many people wouldn't go to another show with that promoter until they were told to just self-post their results.
I looked at the shows in question on the other post and I saw very few of the promoters only holding one show.
I think that if the promoter has shows pulled off of the calander until results get posted by them they would make sure the results get posted. If the promoter doesn't submit results from a show they held then they shouldn't be able hold another show.
I feel that the promoter owes the competitors and Wayne the effort required to post results for the shows they host. By not posting results they allow possible abuse in the system and can cause questions about competitor stats.
I understand the system of putting all the shows for a promoter for the season up on the calander at one time but I think it would be an easy software change to only allow posting of new shows until all old shows are closed and results are posted.
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I think only event promotors or retail members should be allowed to upload event results. If there is a problem with event results, the competitor should get in touch with the shop or promotor that ran the show.
I also think that there needs to be a minimum number of competitors at the show for it to be actually counted. It's a load of crap that people basically have shows for themselves. I went to a show that was on a wednesday night last year, and there were 15 cars. The only advertisement the shop did was hand out flyers to people that came in.
DB Drag is not about the self, it's about supporting the people who support DB Drag. In my opinion, you're not supporting anyone by having shows just for yourself and not even attempting to draw any new faces.
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Well I think that may scare away some Local promoters. If I'm begging this guy to hold a show and he has to pay the retailer membership and price of equipment, he's not going to like being told to basiclly "Move your butt" or you can't hold another show.
You have to remember most small retailers have to run their stores the next day and say his show on Saturday or Sunday brings in a high volume of Customers on Monday, His Customers would be first.
Once they realize that holding comps are bringing in more business, then hopefully they'll post results in a timely manner and then we all win.
Yes, put into effect some sort of time-line but don't let it effect future shows (Unless its a year-after-year,show-after-show problem) Then Wayne should step in.
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I have thought of the promoters before I posted this suggestion and I believe that the promoter needs to treat Db Drags shows as a part of his business with the same respect as every other aspect of his or her business.
I have worked with promoters at many shows organizing traffic through lanes, placing mics in cars and doing in-show and after-show paperwork.
I feel that if the promoter can only schedule a single show at a time then when he goes to schedule another show then it is very easy to post results from the last show as the files at already in the computer and he just has to upload them to Wayne.
I think that if there is a problem with the online reporting then I think that a form needs to be designed that can be faxed in for results. This would only take a few minutes and very little effort.
I do not believe that a promoter should have an option of using excuses as to not posting results. These are people that run a business every day. I think that they understand guidelines and rules better then a lot of people. If the rules about reporting results are in place then promoters can treat it more businesslike. I have never seen someone just not pay attention to rules in a dealer agreement or just ignore things like bills.
We need to show that we take Db Drags seriously before we expect anyone else to take us seriously.
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there should also be a direct upload for results from the retailer, for 1x events, where you can upload the .DAT file right to the website and have results immediately. or else have a manual entry form. this would save alot of time on waynes part, and keep everyone hapy by having event results posted immediately!!
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Being a promoter I can tell you that it is not always easy to get hese things done as quickly as everyone thinks. Especially around finals time when everyone is scrambling to get points together and make sure they get their invite.
quote: Originally poseted by JeremyD Being a promoter I can tell you that it is not always easy to get hese things done as quickly as everyone thinks. Especially around finals time when everyone is scrambling to get points together and make sure they get their invite.
I was just wondering how many shows you put on right before finals and the time invloved for you to post the scores.
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I formyself do pics from my car at the events. Also I do small reports from these events in german forums. Ok, not all the time in english/US forums, but I think its not neccessary.
Make a pic and write some words is not very much to do in my opinion. But should it be required by every competitor? For me it would make no change.
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Question(s): Can the data file from the metering software be uploaded to a flopy disk? If so, could a event promoter (who may not have time to upload the results to the website) select to make a copy of the results onto a floppy disk, and have a concerned competitor take the floopy disk and do the upload for the promoter? If this is an option, how long would it require for the data to be copied to a floppy? Would the time frame be small enough, that a promoter could do the copy process before shutting down the computer?
PS. Could a promoter email a copy of a event result data file (the same file that is uploaded to the website)? I want to do some theory testing of my own. The file could be a bogus result, or results from an actual event. For security reasons, the results of my test will not be made public until permission from Wayne is obtained. My email address is LouisianaSPL@aol.com .
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