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Wayne has stated that there are not going to be any major changes and he IS NOT going to change SS at all....and the only change on the table for EX is combinding 9-12 & 13+.........this leaves open one class.....and for the most part it will be more of a benifit to street class since there are more competitors in street than any other class.......this is the class run down that bennifits the most.....
Street 1 (12" max) Street 2 (2 12s or 1 15 max) Street 3-4 (4 12s or 2 15s max)
SS NW SS 1-2 SS 3-4 SS 5-8 SS 9+
EX 1-2 EX 3-4 EX 5-8 EX 9+
Leaving all the rules the same and getting rid of the move up rule......
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quote:Originally posted by Ghost man: Wayne has stated that there are not going to be any major changes and he IS NOT going to change SS at all....and the only change on the table for EX is combinding 9-12 & 13+.........this leaves open one class.....and for the most part it will be more of a benifit to street class since there are more competitors in street than any other class.......this is the class run down that bennifits the most.....
Street 1 (12" max) Street 2 (2 12s or 1 15 max) Street 3-4 (4 12s or 2 15s max)
SS NW SS 1-2 SS 3-4 SS 5-8 SS 9+
EX 1-2 EX 3-4 EX 5-8 EX 9+
Leaving all the rules the same and getting rid of the move up rule......
Sounds like that would be the best it's gonna get but i'm up for the S1 class
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quote: idbl_fanatic: You know what, I don't care anymore, let them drop the rule, let them keep the rule, I wanted the sport to be more fair for everyone, but that isn't going to happen. So the same people will just keep going to finals, and winning, year after year, after year. So whatever.
It will be interesting to see whether or not your prophecy holds true for even 1, let alone 2 seasons, I mean, who's to say a whole new group won't come along each year and toast the former winner of the class - HEY, what an idea, geez that would be like every other competition where they have an annual grand prize winner - Americas Cup, The WWF Belt, Superbowl, etc... so guess what, the winner of Street in '02 will have to actually beat every other new and old World Finals Street competitor in '03.
...guess that's why they call it "Sport".
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][/QUOTE]No one ever said they wanted the playing field to be fair so that they can win, think about it before you say anything, those of us that are saying the rule needs to stay are also well aware that it will affect us if we are ever invited to finals....and we are fine with that. If we wanted the playing field to be fair enough to always win, we would also be saying, keep the rule, also no 4kw's, no this or that....all we are saying is keep the rule in place and add a class for these guys to make a smooth transaction between street and super street. I love the fact that everyone thinks that we just want to win...yeah that's right, that's why we are so concerned about the new people coming out and competing right? That's why we keep saying that with the rule in place it gives new people a chance, yep that's right we just want to win...whatever![/QB][/QUOTE]
Firefly are you not paying attention. The People are saying it's not fair for some one to compete in street if they go to finals, so new people can go. Is that not asking some one not to compete in a certain class so some one else can win. Why should street be any different from SS or EX. I think the idea should be compete where you want to or can afford. I know a few people out there who love to compete but really can't afford more than an amp or two and a couple subs. Another thing I am not against a pro street class for people who have won finals. I think it would be great to see championship matches with winners of years ago and new. That's one of the reasons to come back is, to beat the guy who beat you last year. Not to be rude but your comment on the 4kw, people have said to not allow it. Firefly remenber to practice what you preach and read everything and try to see what point the person is trying to get across. Don't limit where people can compete, just get them to compete.
P.S. yep that's right we just want to win .... whatever
That was a nice touch. Don't get fustrated, just do your best.
in 96-97 season I was in high school and went to a show to compete in what was the street 1-2, but there was a stipulation in the rules stating that If a person was compensaited for car audio they should get put in pro class (extrem)= (I installed somone elses deck for a a 6 pack). So I had 2 small amps (like 40x2) and 2 12's going up against john henery...so I quit, the rule was stated and No one cared. I took 4 years off and came back. Even though I didn't compete in them 4 years I learned a whole lot bout SPL. so I came back last year with NOTHING. I started te season in ss1-2 because I had 15's and because I felt I knew more than I should....and still be alowed into street even though that's where I could afford to play and there was no rule tating I couldn't(honesty, is something alot of people are missing here) I did, ok last year. I kept my points going by having probably the loudest one amp SS car out there...and once I got 4 amps and every thing working I blew sub, right before I could get cerified. So, I might have, i might not have made finals...big deal, I had a blast and met alot of real cool pep's that share my intrest.
now day's I got a SPL only car to use, I can't decide what class to go into...I know extreem is out, for I can't affod more equipment and a trailer/tow truck. So, SS1-2 again...well, I thinking, "after buying a second car i can't aford it this year, so I should go into s3-4...now how fair would tht be? I have never compited in finals, so Its legal...but I don't want to be look at as one of them "pro's" who just want to beat niewbies...
I know that there is NOT room for more classes. I know, we don't want to change things to much. Bottome line is, if we want to incoperate a entry level and a mid entry level class, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO. Everyone can suggest till they are blue in the face...in order to make it fairer for the newbies, some of the pro's are going o take a hit. I would love to see, a pro street, or NW get downsized. and keep the move up rule. So, the people who went to finals, or the people who have competed at higer levels that can't afford it any more don't go on killing the new peps. I can't afford SS this year, plain and simple. If I have to move down and beat up on street I will...it's not because I want to, but I need smewhere to play where I will have some chance to maybe tweek the box to make up that extra Db or tune a tid different...in SS I can't do that...I can't make up for the lack of batteries, I can't design free amps tha will put me up into the 8-14 thousand wat range...
DB, drag need
1. a class for only niewbies....Street
2. enought classes to offer diversity between product sellection and quanity....pro street or modified NW, SStreet and Extrem.
3. a way to MAKE people move up from being a newbie (street)into a class that's going to brake the pocket book.
4. a way for people who can't afford to keep up in higher classes to move back down to a cheaper class (prostreet).
I think there is NO WAY to remidy this unless, we offer more classes, OR start combining classes that are real close. Like the extreem classes or maybe the upper SS classes...
Everyones life changes, some people CAN'T do higher classes, and they won't. They will cheat to stay in the lower classes OR they will quit.
I totaly agree wih the Idea of pro street, regardless of what it takes to get it done. If the finalist can't affor more stuff....fine they still move out of street into pro street where it will cost them a very little if anything more.