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whats the problem with window tints?
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Section 14 – Mini Street Competition

Performance Restrictions – The show promoter may limit the maximum SPL that can be achieved in the Mini Street Division. For example, the show promoter could allow competitors to sign up for a class in the Mini Street Division, and then if a given competitor were to post an SPL that is higher than a specified SPL during qualifying, that competitor would automatically be moved up into one of the standard divisions of competition (Street, for example).

I would like to see change here.

I Slovenia we had system that after certain dB at competition, competititors should go to normal dB Drag class.

Example:

We had MS 12 which is up to 12'' sub and one amp. After competitor got 144 dB at eliminating rounds, he/she should compete next time in normal S 1-2. At qualifying many had less than 144 but at competition most of them fight for higher scores.

This issue might not be big deal for US, but it can be esential for other countries where MS is rookie class.

If MS rules are writen, than they should be same for all, and qualifing result is not the best way.

Peter Pejovic / Slovenia

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Just wondering if anything is gonna change within street relating to Zapco 4kw's?

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quote:
Originally posted by Sir_Stickybuds:
Just wondering if anything is gonna change within street relating to Zapco 4kw's?

I don't know.....

http://www.termpro.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=45;t=000009

whats this all about....i bet you won't see a list but, a crack down on two amps in one case...

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RULES LOOK GREAT.

WAYNE, I THINK TINT IS FINE.
IN THE LONG RUN IT IS GOOD FOR THE SPORT.
IT STIRS UP CONTROVERSY, AND KEEPS PEOPLE IN THAT COMPETIIVE MODE, INSTEAD OF THE COPY MODE.

TINT BRINGS ON A COMPETITIVE ATTITUDE!!

[Big Grin] [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by MR.TINYTUNES:
RULES LOOK GREAT.

WAYNE, I THINK TINT IS FINE.
IN THE LONG RUN IT IS GOOD FOR THE SPORT.
IT STIRS UP CONTROVERSY, AND KEEPS PEOPLE IN THAT COMPETIIVE MODE, INSTEAD OF THE COPY MODE.

TINT BRINGS ON A COMPETITIVE ATTITUDE!!

[Big Grin] [Big Grin]

yes i do agree why would you not want tint so people can steal there idea that they work so hard for.if someone doesnt want to put it on dont do it.but i think a person should beable to not let anyone see what they have

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quote:
Originally posted by Jani U:
I don't like the 1/8" rule on mat type damping material, just as the most usual thickness people is using whenever using damping mat here is 5-6 mm. 1/6 or even 1/4" would be much better and fair.

I am afraid that if mat type is limited strictly to 1/8" then people are starting to find and use those very expensive sprayed-on stuff which can make it quite hard...
Not to mention this is a very major rule change to last year and would make a lot of people to totally tear down their cars in Street and Super Street classes.

[Wink]

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I believe all the judges would like to see the window tint issue address. the past two years I've judge finals, window tint as always been an issue. The time we take to ask you to remove a section, or explain to you why we need you to remove a section takes away from judging other vehicles.

Some competitors have did a really nice job by providing us with a window to see through. One that comes to mind is Team Divine. None of the judges had a problem seeing in their vehicle.

If you want to cover up, do what Team Divine did. They had a manufacture banner over their windshield. To me that is a great idea. Covers up the glass, and promotes a manufacture.

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some people actually go to shows to "look" at the cars and installs... kind of hard to see in cars with 1% tint on every window..

who wants to drive to a show and see nothing but unopened cars with dark tint?

maybe its just me, but all this hiding is killing the sport.. whats the use in even competing if you dont know what your going up against?

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quote:
Originally posted by pipebomb:
some people actually go to shows to "look" at the cars and installs... kind of hard to see in cars with 1% tint on every window..

who wants to drive to a show and see nothing but unopened cars with dark tint?

maybe its just me, but all this hiding is killing the sport.. whats the use in even competing if you dont know what your going up against?

you make a good point. im not tinting my bad just in the back and side so poeple not at a show cant see in but i will have my car open at every show.i wasnt complaning but it should be up to the owner if he wants poeple to see or not.and steve i see what your saying also but whats the problem with the judges that cant see in cant you just open the door and look.like i said before im not complaining or arguing so please dont think i am [Smile] [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by pipebomb:
some people actually go to shows to "look" at the cars and installs... kind of hard to see in cars with 1% tint on every window..

who wants to drive to a show and see nothing but unopened cars with dark tint?

maybe its just me, but all this hiding is killing the sport.. whats the use in even competing if you dont know what your going up against?



[ 01-20-2003, 01:15 PM: Message edited by: mtxbird ]

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sounds good, but can we have a clarification on the voltage adjusting issue in street. people in europe turn up their voltage by means of a voltage regulator. can we have that addressed

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What would be the highest permissible charging voltage in street?

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quote:
Originally posted by Wayne Harris:
What would be the highest permissible charging voltage in street?

My wifes explorer charges 15.1 with cheap walmart battery and NO electrical upgrades.

With the correct upgrades and better battery, I could see getting nearly 16volts.

I have been told that some 80's/90's Ford Thunderbirds charged over 16 volts.

I say leave it at 18v.

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6-4 All of the components in the sound system (with the exception of an external podium or source unit) must be located within the external OEM “skin” of the vehicle. (This includes, but is not limited to alternators, batteries, amplifiers, enclosures, and speakers.)
The following exceptions only apply to Extreme Division competitors:
· Battery boxes located underneath the vehicle are acceptable.

· Fully encapsulated or “caged” alternators located above the hood, in front of the grille, or underneath the vehicle are acceptable.


-Does this mean that under vehicle battery boxes are no longer allowed in Super Street.

- On the tint ruling:Without the tint our midget might get too hot on these Florida summer days and pass out. Steve we had to add the viewing window to check on him without letting him out the door when we open it.

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From the defininitions section...

Vehicle Skin – The dBDRA defines the “skin” of the vehicle as the external shell (top, front, back, and sides) of the vehicle’s OEM body that gives the vehicle it’s distinctive appearance. This is also the part of the vehicle that is normally painted. The underside or undercarriage of the vehicle is not considered to be a part of the OEM “skin”.

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quote:
Originally posted by pipebomb:
some people actually go to shows to "look" at the cars and installs... kind of hard to see in cars with 1% tint on every window..

who wants to drive to a show and see nothing but unopened cars with dark tint?

maybe its just me, but all this hiding is killing the sport.. whats the use in even competing if you dont know what your going up against?

If the vehicle is closed up with dark tint and you can't see anything inside we should call this IASCA or something [Wink]

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quote:
Originally posted by MR.TINYTUNES:
RULES LOOK GREAT.

WAYNE, I THINK TINT IS FINE.
IN THE LONG RUN IT IS GOOD FOR THE SPORT.
IT STIRS UP CONTROVERSY, AND KEEPS PEOPLE IN THAT COMPETIIVE MODE, INSTEAD OF THE COPY MODE.

TINT BRINGS ON A COMPETITIVE ATTITUDE!!

[Big Grin] [Big Grin]

It also brings on the thought of what are these people hiding? [Smile]

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the charging voltage doesnt matter as long as the electrical is pure stock b/c some cars do charge at higher voltages BUT can we have a clarificaton stating that NONE voltage adjusting devices are allowed.

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quote:
Originally posted by Tinted:
the charging voltage doesnt matter as long as the electrical is pure stock b/c some cars do charge at higher voltages BUT can we have a clarificaton stating that NONE voltage adjusting devices are allowed.

see the problem here is that alot of cars (esp. ford's) come with an adjustable voltage regulator...

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like i said, as long as its stock

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"200 square inches (508cm^2)"

???

Who is doing this math ??
200 square inches is 1290 square centimeters as far as I know.

Thanks for allowing us to have sooo small windows here where we use metric measures [Wink]

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Yeah Jani, you're definitely correct, the convert rate from inches to cm must be squared, too.

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[ 01-21-2003, 06:11 AM: Message edited by: Matze ]

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