Every year were changing the classes. Do we forget about the new comer's that were building for the new year. We kill all of these guy's ideas because were always changing. And were not changing for the new competitors. Where doing it for ourselves, so we can be more comfertable. Let's work on what we have and then change if needed. I personally think Wayne should leave the classes like they were since this years World Finals had problems. People will feel alot better going against their fellow competitor, this year knowing that Wayne has solved the meter situation.

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Originally posted by Wayne Harris:
In 2001, the dBDRA had 12 standard classes of competition. At events where prize money is awarded (ie World Finals), the prize money pool is divided equally among all 12 classes, with 1st-3rd place winners in each class receiving a distrubution.

The 3 issues I would like to discuss are...

1. Should the prize money for winners in each division of competition (Street, SS, and Extreme) be the same?

2. Should prize money be awarded to 1st-3rd place winners or just 1st place winners?

3. Should we combine some classes. This would result in more prize money being awarded for each of the remaining classes?

What are your thoughts on this? Please ensure that your STATS button (and link) is included in your response.

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*should prize money be equal*

NO...I think that prize money should be a way to reward a compeditor and provide some compensation to recoupe costs of building. A wieghted system should be used with extream compeditors recieving 2 times the money that street does, and super street falling right in the middle.

*should prize money be awarded 1st - 3rd

Yes, IMO the top 3 should all recieve money like this season where it gets less and less as you move down.

*combining classes
Absolutely! scores run into each other too much right now. There is no point in a class's with more than 9 subs. then replace these classes with more lower street classes as described in prop 1.

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Originally posted by PHILESTER:

s 1-2
s 3-4
pro s 1-2
pro s 3-4
ssnw 1-2
ssnw 3-4
ss 1-2
ss 3-4
ss 5-6
ss 7+
ex 1-2
ex 3-4
ex 5-6
ex 7+

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I like this too Phil, but there is always going to be somebody who's pissed off because their class is more competitive.

SS 1-2) 165.2
SS 3-4) 166.3
SS 5-8) 166.9
SS 9+) 168.4

Only a .6dB difference average between SS 3-4 / SS 5-8,
and the .1dB difference between the EX 3-4 / 5-8, points to too many divisions.

EX 1-2) 171.5
EX 3-4) 173.2
EX 5-8) 173.3
EX 9-13) 171.7
EX 13+) 171.1

Here you can see that the Extreme 5-8 was the loudest, so why not combine the top 3 into a 5+ class.

What about regrouping these into only 3 Extreme classes, and 3 SS classes, - ie: 1, 2-4, 5+, so the local shows will have more competitors filling the top classes, a little 'freshness' is added, and Finals might be more competitive and exciting.

This would make room for 4 classes below the SS and Extreme classes:
??? Pro-street 1-3 ( 3-10", 2-12", 1-15")
??? Pro-street 1-6 ( 6-10", 4-12", 2-15",1-18"+)
??? SSNW 1-2
??? SSNW 3-4

Only 10 classes = more $$ and better trophies for all!!

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Originally posted by It only Hertz in Cycles:
Here you can see that the Extreme 5-8 was the loudest,

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Excuse me?!?!?!

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It only Hertz in Cycles

Calculating the average in each class by throwing out the highest and the lowest scores of the (7 or) 8 in each class at Finals, the averages were:

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On questins about prize money....could care less!! We jumped into this competion format because we had chased the IASCA and USAC SQ world trophies since 1993 and were burnt out from all of the stress. This was quick and fun. I would like to think it still is. We did and do compete for the FUN of it, if you actually believe that you are going to make money or get some back from your investment, you are in the wrong sport. When we do receive prize money, we feel thankful and lucky that our sport gives us these added bonuses from time to time. Don't get us wrong, prize money is great, but don't get tied up on that as your driving force to this sport. I speak for myself, but I believe us and some of the other veterans simply do this for bragging rights and personal satisfaction, not a check.

Now, on the combing classes.....

Simple, besides maybe 9+ and 13+ combining and banning street classes from finals, don't touch them. We will never have anything set or ran smooth if we never keep everything simple and the same. For example NASCAR runs v-8's in Amercian muscle cars for years, extremely successful money making machine. 2002 NASCAR decides to run nitrous burning 4 cyl and v-8's on same track, but scored differently among themseleves. Simple "NASCAR", now complicated to watch and to OFFICIATE.... Same rules, same cars, mild CLARIFICATIONS to EXISTING rules each year yields, smoother running shows, and more consistant judging, because rules and classes stay the same(a.k.a. consistant)

Now, on a personal note about the 13+ class having few competitiors and not being WORTHY of anyones respect. We have either competed, helped build and designed or won dB Drag World Championships in these classes...

Street 1-2,Street 3-4, Superstreet 1-2,5-8, Extreme 1-2,3-4,9+,13+. Pro 0-5000 Watt. In all our testing of extreme cars, our scores have stayed in the same ballbark. But, the multiple woofer cars have by FAR, been the most challenging to make loud. Making sure all of those woofers and amplifiers and battieries are a 100% was much harder to keep track of then our 4 and 5 woofer VW Rabbits. So just because the scores might not reflect it, be careful on judging the multiple woofer cars untill you have tried it. There isn't alot of competitiors in these classes because of the amount of work involved in one of these beast. Can you imagin wiring all of the amps in Alma's Bronco and making sure they are all good. I know checking our 5 amps and 5 woofers in the Rabbit was alot easier than checking out Big Jim. Just a thought from so "old guys"