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well if you are going to only give use a certified score at triple point events you will eliminate alot of competion you will see the same poeple winning all the time.. i say leave it alone and try to get more 3x events instead of forcing poeple to do it. lets face it most U.S. db draggars accumulate more than enough pionts in a season we canadians have to travel twice asmuch just to get the required amount just for an invite. you will only make it harder for poeple to compete and it wont be fun anymore and isnt that why we are all here....
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Wayne you've got to think about the rest of the world, we are lucky here in England if we get a multi point event at all. Never mind one near to where we live (state / area etc.) Otherwise we have to go to the European finals which is usually very late in the year & the distances & costs involved are VERY high. Petrol = approx $6 per gallon in most of europe.
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I have no opinion about if we should allow certified scores at 2x and 3x events, or just 3x events only...but, from the comments made by people that do not reside in the United State, Should there be a U.S. version, and a European version of the dBDRA Rules? Since all countries do not have the same leadership, should non-US countries be given "amended" rules that will allow equality world wide?
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YOU MUST CONSIDER SOME REQUIRMENTS IN THE RULE BOOK FOR INTERNATIONALS TRYING TO REACH THE FINALS
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International competors are givin execptions for invites to finals. The only expection to this is canada. I believe every other country, If there is a competor who wants to travel to the us is giving a invite.
I know thi to be true for Hidiki ( sp) for japan in 99, and The guys from Australia in 99 as well. The German's this past year got invite. Based on points , since at euro finals was the first time a calibtor was used at a european show.
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quote:Originally posted by Full Moon Racing: International competors are givin execptions for invites to finals. The only expection to this is canada. I believe every other country, If there is a competor who wants to travel to the us is giving a invite.
I know thi to be true for Hidiki ( sp) for japan in 99, and The guys from Australia in 99 as well. The German's this past year got invite. Based on points , since at euro finals was the first time a calibtor was used at a european show.
Yes, but sometimes people need things to be written in "black and white" (or if you own a Malibu, then it must be written in red)before they will consider it to be "legit".
Forgive my lack of intelligence, I is at work and the mouse that spins the wheel went to lunch. Maybe when he returns, I can begin to think again.
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i think this would be a good idea if there were more triple points in my area...NY, PA, OH, NJ...etc.. Yeah i can find some triple pointers but they require me to drive 5-6 hours each way. we have more 2x comps in my area....
I would work if 3xers were close for everybody
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quote:Originally posted by Full Moon Racing: International competors are givin execptions for invites to finals. The only expection to this is canada. I believe every other country, If there is a competor who wants to travel to the us is giving a invite.
I know thi to be true for Hidiki ( sp) for japan in 99, and The guys from Australia in 99 as well. The German's this past year got invite. Based on points , since at euro finals was the first time a calibtor was used at a european show.
Hi, no, not correct, we have calibrators over here in Europe and use them since, hm two years (?). Not at every show, but we only have 2 db drag setups here in germany, so its always the same Mic ! The information policy is not good enough. Everything was mixed. Last year we had certified and calibrated events in Europe and Germany. Nobody knows it...(or want to know it?) We had a lot of trouble this year with our invitations. If I´m able to come again next year, with my Ü2, I don´t want this trouble again. Be sure, I ship my car, and then it is there, and if I cant compete, hell is open, I promise... I will collect points, like last year, and I have a certified score (european final 2001, I hope !) So, and to make it easier, please Wayne, make a international/non US or Europe section here. Always this mix with certified in USA and then between all this posting a cry for help from Europa, or Australia, or Asia or... it´s not easy to follow or argue in correct form.
Thanks and Üüüühh!!! Michael
PS.: It happens more in DB DRAG outside the US then someone think of... But anyways, it isn´t soo big in comparsion to the ÜSA...
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quote:Originally posted by Sid Grice: I...but, from the comments made by people that do not reside in the United State, Should there be a U.S. version, and a European version of the dBDRA Rules? Since all countries do not have the same leadership, should non-US countries be given "amended" rules that will allow equality world wide?
not a bad idea Sid.
Also alot of people are complaining about it being too hard to get to a 3x for a certified score. I think that if you are wanting to compete at a "world finals level", you will find a way to get a certified score! If i can do it living in the southeast corner of NM....anyone can
My closest 3x last year was 465 miles each way
2x shows should be points only. I also think there should be a way for the same meter, mics, and calibrator to be used at every 3x. The calibrators get shipped from show to show every week. So can the computer and mics.
im not to sure about having seperate rules for ppl outside the US i think we should all have the same rules but we need a bit of slack wen it cums to geting a certified spl
we only have 2 mics for the of Australia so its pritty hard for us to try get point/test/win wot ever it maybe
our mics are sent to the US every 6 months to be recalibrated (spelling) so the only thing i can think of is to have a comp str8 after they get back from re-calibrations
???? thoughts ????? wayne ????? not unless sumbody would like to donate a termpro setup to us (CarAudioAustralia.com) then we could hold as many events as we wanted that would be nice
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Also alot of people are complaining about it being too hard to get to a 3x for a certified score. I think that if you are wanting to compete at a "world finals level", you will find a way to get a certified score! If i can do it living in the southeast corner of NM....anyone can
My closest 3x last year was 465 miles each way
2x shows should be points only. I also think there should be a way for the same meter, mics, and calibrator to be used at every 3x. The calibrators get shipped from show to show every week. So can the computer and mics.
I agree with Nat and Mike on this...only one 3x should be held each weekend and the same mic should be used for all...
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I think it is a great idea as long as there could be some way to make sure that everyone would have a chance to attend a triple without driving through 3 states to get to one. For some people a 2x was the only way to get certified without driving for a day or more. This wasn't my case because in my area there were plenty 3x's.
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my two cents, I like the idea of certified at 3x only, if we see an increase in the number of 3x shows. I don't enjoy having to drive 6 hours to get certified.
quote:Originally posted by PuRpS: now we geting sumwhere
not unless sumbody would like to donate a termpro setup to us (CarAudioAustralia.com) then we could hold as many events as we wanted that would be nice
Go to Termlab.com homepage and click on the advertisement. You can buy your own Termlab there like most of the rest of us have. It is a cheap investment if you are serious about dB Drag.
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You guy's know I mean buisness. We do not need to have more than one triple point event per weekend.
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IMO, we need 2 sets of official mics. At least 1 triple point event for every 2 states. Every country deserves a triple within a reasonable distance. Say 25 U.S. shows and 5-7 non-U.S. shows. No more than 2 shows a weekend and those shows must be spread apart. This way everyone gets a chance at a triple and mics will be fairly consistent. Do you all agree or disagree?
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Multipionts are a problem in South Africa also, we dont have enough - it will also be difficult as competitors would have very long distances to travel for shows. Ie not a good idea here.
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Go to Termlab.com homepage and click on the advertisement. You can buy your own Termlab there like most of the rest of us have. It is a cheap investment if you are serious about dB Drag.
It cost me almost 2300US $ !!! (shiping, custom duties, VAT...) Average salary is lower here, we don't earn any money on organizing cmpetitions... So it is almost impossible to buy calibrator for some national organizers.
BUT there is already few countries in Europe that have them and use them (also on 1x events!!!).
And I don't think that we should have separate rules, just something fair for everybody.
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HELP! Seriously, HELP is needed for 'rest of the world'. I allways try to help as much as I can, and I also need help.
Will buy a termlab from CES (hopefully). We have at least 5 TermLab's in Finland, although most of them are 1 Mic packages which competitors use for tweaking.
in Europe there are highspl calibrators in Belgium and Norway, and I think France will get one for next year too. Finnish dB Drag economics is not yet that good we could buy one for ourselves, but hopefully someday...
Oh yeah, HELP HELP! (once again)
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BTW In Germany will be a calibrator too, next year. An own, what will be used at near over the half of the events of the whole country. Hi or Low, single double or triple point, our results will all be "calibrated" But if they will be accepted as "certified" ? Let´s see...
Üüüühh!!! Michael
PS.: Help !!! Not more, just Help !!!
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by JustboB:
Go to Termlab.com homepage and click on the advertisement. You can buy your own Termlab there like most of the rest of us have. It is a cheap investment if you are serious about dB Drag.
Sincerly JustboB no have idea about the sacrifice in other countrys for create a Db Drag event!!! I have the Representative in two countrys ( Argentina and Chile) For make posible a event we travel in a truck with all the dbdrag sistem(tower,audio equipment,monitors,etc) about 1400 Km and we have 20 event in one year. I hope can buy my 3er mics ,because we have two mics for two COUNTRYS!! HERE HAVENT THE CAR AUDIO MANUFACTURES FOR SUPORTS THE EVENTS!!!
I COME TO PEPSI,COCACOLA,MAJOR OF GOVERMENT IN SEC OF TURISM,ETC FOR THIS PEOPLE SOPORT ONE FOR ONE THE CONTEST IN ALL THE CITYS IN ARGENTINA. And the Db Drags event here are wonderfull for the pasion of competitors no for the money of the organizers!!!
-------------------- Guillermo Blanco dbDrag Retailer from Argentina and Chile
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