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Hmm... I like the idea of having a huge turn out, and using the same mic on a bounch of compeditors to see where you stand. But I don't know how many 3x shows actually come to the NY Area? I mean I would like to have more than 1 shot without driving more than 600miles each way!
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this sounds like a done deal. i think it would work out for the best, providing their were at least 5 triple point events per time zone. that imo would be plenty of chances to certify.
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quote:Originally posted by Nutz: The only other down fall is the cost to run a 3x compared to a 2x. This may restrict the amount of multi-point events held. I would also look into the fees. Not two many shops want to pay the fees to run a 3x. This is why we saw an increase in 2x's.
this is exactly wha t i think too.noone is going to pay $500 to hold a 2x-er when you can hold as many 1x shows for $100, and many shops simply cant afford to drop $1,000 for a show that MIGHT break even. I cant speak for every shop, but we are considering having a 2x for our shop as kinda "grand finale", but i dont think we can swing a 3x, so a non-certified 2x show seems kinda pointless. i cant really say that it was hard to get points, and we switched vehicles pretty late in the sseason.
NOTHING WILL STOP PEOPLE FROM COMPLAINING ABOUT THERE LACK OF SCORE. THERE COULD BE 1 CERTIFIED SHOW ALL YEAR LONG AND EVERYONE COULD GO THROUGH ON THE SAME MIC AND THERE WOULD STILL BE PEOPLE THAT WOULD SAY THE MIC WAS HIGHER FOR HIM, OR WHATEVER. THERE IS NO WAY TO ELIMINATE THIS, IT SIMPLY CANT BE DONE, UNFORTUNATELY
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too easy?? some people have to drive 3 hours just to get to a 1x show, and only get 2 or three 3x shows within at least 8 hours. so dont tell us that getting 100 points is EASY. its NOT for some people.
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Great idea! I'm with a few of the others by wanting to see more triple pointers and possibly a few selected mic sets used for triples only. Also, throughout the season, maybe have the mics be switched around in different locations just to get rid of the controversy that one mic is higher than another. I do think you'll have a little drop in double pointers, but like ya said, double pointers is for gathering a few extra points.
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I like the idea, but why would the same equip at all 3x shows be impossible? I mean we ship calibrators all over the country, couldn't a notebook computer and some mics go along too? I think that there should be only 1 triple per weekend, and with that setup it would work
As for people complaing about traveling a distance to get to a 3x show, its like that for the entire country. I drove 700 each way to Padre, 800 each way to Vegas, 700 each way to Springfield, 500 each way to Dallas, and 350 each way to OKC (that one was like a cross town trip for me )
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i think this idea is lame!! we canadians barely get a double let alone a triple it is really unfair if this rule goes into effect or do the double idea and nix triple pointers all together it seems like from one years to the next all the rules make it easier for "pros" to compete and squeezing all the other people out its just my 2 cents!!
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i think this idea is lame!! we canadians barely get a double let alone a triple it is really unfair if this rule goes into effect or do the double idea and nix triple pointers all together it seems like from one years to the next all the rules make it easier for "pros" to compete and squeezing all the other people out its just my 2 cents!!
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that is because the only people in on these discussions are usually the pros since the newcomers won't find out about DbDrag until into next season when the rules have been long finalized
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Could do with some kind of a clue of if the rest of world are going to need tripple point events. A few Europeans are going to want to go to the World finals, do they need points or not? do they need a certified score or not? No point re-jigging scores at the end of the year, just because some one complains again....
We too would like some of these tripple point events. How else can we be seen on the certified score leaderboard?
Need the rules to include rest of world, or have a European section, before we can comment on if any proposition is a good idea or not.
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sorry wayne just cant be that way not unless u give every body a x3 event
how am i spose to get a Certified SPL ??? are you going to give us 3 or 4 x3 events here in australia ??? 1 in sydney 1 in brisbane and 1 in melbourne ?? they are the largest cities where more dbdrags are held
you have to look at the biger picture not just the US
ps are u going to fly judges over here becuase we only have 1 guy to run the DB drags here.. yes 1 guy duz it all by his self and he does a bloody good job to
i think b4 u do anything u need to reveiw the world of dbdrag racing
i want a Certified SPL am i ever going to get 1 ?? prolly not
Lukas Armstrong hard core Dbdrager from australia
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I think that it should also be debate about other parts of the world (if dB-drag is international). Lets not forget that conditions are not the same all ower the world, and that car audio is way more expensive all ower the world than in US.
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if it is not possible to have the same mic at every certified event then we should only have one per weekend like nate said or we should only have 2 mics used at certified events.... and i know what everyones going to say... one mic was high, one was low, the grass was greener that day, etc... but like someone else said even if we only have one mic at certified events people are still going to bitch....
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you have to look at the biger picture not just the US
i think b4 u do anything u need to reveiw the world of dbdrag racing
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In 2001, Certified SPL's could be established at all multipoint events. This included 2X and 3X events. In 2002, the dBDRA would like to restrict certified scores to 3X events only. In other words, the only way you could establish a certified SPL would be to attend a 3X event. 2X events would be for points only.
For 3X to be certified only, you'll have to make sure each state gets at least one 3X. You'll need two 3X per state for this to work. As I understand it, 3X events are more expensive and you may lose some shops ability to put on a 3X. If you can have two 3X per season per state then I'm all for it.
Maybe have a "special" 2X for areas that can't get a 3X?
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If 2x shows would only count or points would the cost of them be lowered from $500 and if retailers would be more likely to hold 3x eents would you also lower their cost? From a competitor point of view it is an ok idea although I am not to thrilled about it (Reserve military personnel somehow manage to schedule the one weekend a month on the same one as all dbdrag shows especially multipoint events so thet would make it even more difficult to get a cert score I missed more than I can count) but from a retail point of view I do not think they would like to play that game it is free to hold 2 single point events. A solution would be for Wayne to set up a 3x team and have them travel around the us and hold a show every other weekend like NHRA. then instead of hitting store owners up with fees they could raise entry fees to 100 per person and pocket the net ammount for the organization.
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would every state get a 3x,er.it would be nice to see one here in michigan.we only had one 2x all year.
i would be happy to help out in anyway to have atleast one,if not more 3x here in MICHIGAN
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I think that the 2x events should also give you a certified SPL, because there are not enought 3x events in the season to go to ,because most of them are too far away to get to for someone that works 40+ hours a week. Most of the local shops around my area are not going to put out the money to have the 3x events, so for me and a hole bunch of other competers to go to a 3x show we have to travel a good distance.
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Make it where each retailer gets 5 single point events and one double. That totals 6 as was last year. If a retailer only wnats to have one, then they can do the double. Others who want to do a series of events can culminate those with a double. No certified scores, so that should be ok with everyone and be a bonus for us retailers at mo additional cost!!!!
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quote:Originally posted by JustboB: Make it where each retailer gets 5 single point events and one double. That totals 6 as was last year. If a retailer only wnats to have one, then they can do the double. Others who want to do a series of events can culminate those with a double. No certified scores, so that should be ok with everyone and be a bonus for us retailers at mo additional cost!!!!
this is a very good idea, but would wayne be down for not getting that cash for the doubles?
i think it will come down to this if doubles become noncertified: -nobody holds 2x events -wayne bites down and cuts the cost
with that being said i think un-certifying 2x shows is a lose-lose situation.
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