9 people had more than 154, and 54 more than 150 in S 1-2

12 people more than 155 and 50 more than 150 in S 3-4.

So there is only few people that can do top score and many that can do good score. IMO it is not expensive to have decent score (over 150) in S. I know many more sports where you need to invest a lot more to be in top 50 in the world.

Only solution to make entry level class more affordable is that there is speciall class with MSRP money limit, and to make sport more interesting for manufacturers, only goods of companies that sponsor dB-drag can be used. This formula is widely used in car racing, and good starting point for enthusiasts.

But can rules be changed that it would be allowed to have HU outside car in S class. If HU is inside car, than it makes that class more expensive, not cheaper! Competitor must have: HU, remote, changer. If HU could be outside, all it needs is some extra cable.

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Originally posted by Wayne Harris:

No cargo vans in the Street Division.

If the vehicle has removable seats, then the enclosure must be behind the trailing edge of the door jamb of the backmost door when competing in the Street Division.

[ 12-13-2001: Message edited by: Wayne Harris ][/QB]

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Originally posted by ldblkgeo:
I think putting a power cap on the street class would work and have it at finals also. Like a 750 watt limit in Street 1-2 and 1500 watts in Street 3-4. Sure we had problems when it was like this in 2000 but we didnt have nearly as many problems as we do now and we also had mid 140's in the top 8 also. Eather way we go there is going to be problems so what ever happins just keep it simple so there is less to argue about

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Originally posted by bigdaddyderwood:
If I only got the opportunity to compete in local events then i wouldn't get to compete. I live in small town south of tallahhassee, fl and there's never been a competition there. I already have to drive over two hours just to get to a "local" competition.

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Originally posted by ROB-BOB:

subwoofers should take the power with ease, since it's a daily driver. A street system should play a wide variety of music, without sounding like crap, not just a one note wonder.

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What about the newbies with pyramid hyper pro's and 1000w kraco amps? their gonna fail that test!!!

I Think we should keep the street class and have it at world finals!!

No Street Division at the World Finals.
-Terrible idea. You will loose more people than you gain from this decision. Street competitors are just as serious about this sport as SS and Extreme competitors. 2001 was my first year competing with something I built myself rather than something shop built. I started out with like a 144 something my first show and made finals with a 154.5 Same vehicle(trunk car) the whole time. Now I don't have the money to invest in moving into the higher classes so the DBDRA has lost a very dedicated competitor IMO. I am hooked on this sport now, and I think that going to finals was the drive that hooked me. Being in the lanes infront of all the cheering people, and meeting all the well respected competitors from across the World was awesome. Due to that experience, when money comes my way I will be back and in a big way. But until that time I am financially limited to a street application. I guess my point is that without finals as a drive for me....I wouldn't have EVER put all the time and effort into my vehicle. My goal was to be the loudest in the World in my class. I know that there are many people in the same situation as me and they won't put the money into the DBDRA's pockets without a goal or ticket to finals if you know what I mean.
Points for Street Division competitors are recorded but they do not count towards participation at the Finals.

Geographic limitations on Street Division competitors at the event promoters discretion. For example, if you are a retailer hosting an event, you can limit participation in the Street Division to only those competitors who live in your city or the cities you specify.
- Not a good idea. You will be closing to door to others that drive from out of town or out of state. I went to Kentucky with my team for a single pointer and had a great time loosing. (just an example)
No Pros in the Street Division.
-excellent idea, but how do you fix this? There were pro installers and veterans at finals int he lanes with me(newbie). Make a division for the pros please. I would still try to compete if there was one and I know that Brandsoy and a few others would also try to.
No cargo vans in the Street Division.
-Great! Also include other non commercial vehicles.
If the vehicle has removable seats, then the enclosure must be behind the trailing edge of the door jamb of the backmost door when competing in the Street Division.
-Said this all year long after the vans came out. Wish this would've happened.
Leave the Street Division alone.
-Can't be left alone. Too much to do.

P.S. For all those individuals with limited funds and trunks....you can be competitive. Don't automatically think that you are ou of the game due to those restrictions.

Those of you that say street class will die if it is not for finals are wrong. They only way we will grow this sport is to make it fun for the local guy. If the street competitor gets into it, then he can either go to the Pro-Street or Super Street divisins if he wants to get to go to finals. The 30 people who competed at finals in street class last year does not represent the true street competitors that are my customers.

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Originally posted by AmericanBassMan:

No Street Division at the World Finals.
-Terrible idea. You will loose more people than you gain from this decision.

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Well tell me this how do we get rid of all the complaining that goes on in this class???

Dont get me wrong I want it to stay but what happens to the guys withe 300 watts I guess just say goodbye to them.

I have been a finals competitor and judge, manufacturers rep, and currently own a store.
So I have seen things from almost every view.

The bottom line is:
A) Manufacturers will support organizations and events that help their dealers sell product
B) Dealers ( the people that put on the majority of dB Drag events) will only hold events where the majority of their customers can participate, thus encouraging them to buy stuf, and in turn the dealers buy more product from the manufacturer.

Is everyone seeing where i'm going here?

C) Street class in it's current form does nothing for both the manufacturers ( at least the ones who actually sell to dealers)
and it's dealer base.

D)Without dealers holding shows there is no dB drag as we know it.

E) a revitalized street class geared towards the local retailer and local competitor, and thus helping out most manufacturers by selling more stuff, is the most logical of all scenarios.

Yes this will upset a few people, but like i said,overall it is best that Street class not be allowed at finals and geared towards helping retailers.

Remove Street Class as a class of burps like SS, and Extreme. Those classes are for 1 note wonder systems that 'can be' designed for burps.

I say that a Street Class system should meet the following requirements:

-Full Range Install (including Bass/Mid/Trebble)
-No size limit on speakers or amps
-Must compete using Music (of choice), and have some sort of ruling that if they drop below a certian db-level during the run (suggesting that their elec system wasn't sufficient to support the system) that their run be dq'd. That way people with Zapco's or whatever in Street (which we all know are not daily drivers) will be eliminated. Along with other Cheater amps.
-1min runs?
-Stock Elec. System
-Include this class in finals

Street systems purchased by newbies, and just normal Street bumpers, should be systems people want to listen or show off to friends. How many people say, "dude... hop in my car and listen to this 65hz test tone for 2 seconds. Aint my system the sh!t?" Na, people want to hear the system playing their favorite album.

Just my thoughts. This could make for a very cool class where even someone with a stock stereo w/6x9's (if they so wanted to) could compete against other Street systems.

Then we could always add a Street-Pro Class. This class would be the same as the current 'Newbie' class.

Any thoughts?