I like the idea of making the class play music for at least some peroid of time.

Or the idea were you have a pro street and street level.

I think the first would be the easiest and help make class where be able to do more then burp would be a focus, with out getting anal about the SQ. The first would revolutionize the street class.
Making the pro compete on the level of the everyday consumer and his everyday driver.

I prefer either to kicking anyone out of street.

You see Wayne post a concern about how some people are scared away by pros in street and asks for some ideas to make street more newbie friendly. And some people jump on and suggest getting rid of Street. Good idea
The other one that gets me is the lets consolidate Street and SS.
Ya right.
I got an idea.
Lets get rid of all classes and we can all duke it out with Team Pure Sound and Team Gates. (Said with lots of Sarcasim)
Now what do you think. For those of you that think getting rid of street is a good idea, try jumping a few class and compete agianst agianst the monsters in Extreme and then you would see how bad of an idea getting rid of street is.

No offence too any one.

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Preliminary results look as though we may keep the Street division at Finals. There will probably be a reduction in classes at the top end (Extreme) and maybe in SS. There may be an expansion in SS NW. If we reduce the classes in any division, we will probably invite the same number of competitors in those divisions as before.
There will probably be as many as 4 NEW amateur classes which will not be at Finals. Classes may be based on cone area and amp qty instead of woofer count. (May be similar to MSD) Points will be accumulated but will not count towards Finals qualification.
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about that cone area thing, would it be easier for the average 'Joe' if there was a number/and/size of woofer instead of having to calculate,even the simplest math is way beyond a lot of ground-pounders- maybe something like 5-8s/3-10s/2-12s/1-15 or something might simplify it.
and how about state championships and internet points for the 'amaturs' and a web page all for them?- but they gotta be a member to have a stats page!
and what is MSD?

Street class is competitive, there was more competition in that class this year than any other.. People don't like to watch extreme except for when its big jim or alma... Noone was watching. Street went up and everyone was watching because they can relate to a street vehicle.. "HEY I CAN DO THAT!" and then they go out and buy a competition ready system and make a run at it.

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Originally posted by Thumpin:
Ben, you say there is a lot of whining in the street class?

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Yes I do

I can not deny what I saw this was absolutely the class with the most whining and complaining I saw things I dont even like to mention like people purposely blowing up there amplifiers at World Finals to use another amp that was louder I wont point names like you do Matt.

But I will say this if you come to World Finals with a MMats amp or a Crossfire or a Zapco than thats what you should use. I dont beleive anyone should be allowed to change amplifiers at all. I also could not beleive that anybody in any of these classes is allowed to build a new sub box and bring it into the Nashville Convention Center. Now all I know is some issues have to be brought up here. Enough of all these Loopholes that people are taking advantage of.

There has to be fairness. For me to be a street competitor competing at WOrld Finals to see a guy hit a 152 then next time he goes through the lanes hit a 156dB and mysteriously a Zapco 4K appears in the vehicle is unfair. If the street class shall stay which I would like it to stay for any clarification seeing everyone thinks us SS guys want it gone. I have worked endlessly on our street cars and you act like I dont even compete in street. Yes I had 2 cars in that class. 1 in street 1-2 Dod Choy he finished 11th in the world. I also worked on Way Choy he finished 5th in the world street 3-4.

I would call myself a street competitor. So I dont like it when people label all of us SS competitors. I want it to stay without all the politics and BS. It should be the funnest class in Db Drag Racing and for me to see what I saw at World Finals it wasnt fun at all. Very unprofessional.

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Originally posted by Wayne Harris:
Quick Update:

First, thanks for the tons of input. I also appreciate the professional manner in which this topic has been discussed.

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No Problem, Wayne, where would you like the discussion to go from here, since we have established that there will probably be a street class at finals, and the local amatuers will have their own class that doesn't go to finals. Maybe start a new thread concerning rules changes and/or additions?

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Originally posted by Wayne Harris:

• No cargo vans in the Street Division.

• If the vehicle has removable seats, then the enclosure must be behind the trailing edge of the door jamb of the backmost door when competing in the Street Division.

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Maybe have no commericial vehicles in street either? Amp must remain in the passenger/cargo area. Also need to think about changing the height restriction rules to rear window or to the top of the seats nearest the enclosure? Using the front window line is hard to judge as the enclosure is usually no where near the front window. If the front window is to remain, is it the lowest or highest part of the lowest part of the window? Or should it follow the window line (upswept on some cars)?

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Originally posted by Thumpin:
Ben, I didnt say you didnt build street cars etc.. I just wish you would look at trying to keep street instead of trying to get rid of it...

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I dont want it gone though......

I want it to stay just under different terms

We need guys to still have fun.....

Thanks for your participation. I think this topic may have set the record for the most posts in a single thread.
To summarize, entry level competitors are vital to the sport of dB Drag Racing. It is imperative that we give these new competitors a place to participate without forcing them to compete against hardcore competitors.

The dBDRA is considering the following action items...

Creating a new "Entry Level" division of competition.

This division may include up to 4 classes that are based on cone area (and maybe amp quantity, power, or retail cost).

This division will not be offered at the World Finals.

Competitors will accrue points in this division just like any other class, but only the first 24 points will count towards World Finals eligibility.

This division will use a simplified subset of the regular dB Drag Racing rules.

No pros or sponsored vehicles will be permitted to compete in this division.

No cargo vans or commerical vehicles will be permitted to compete in this division.

The enclosure must remain behind the rearmost door's trailing door jamb (for vehicles with removable seats).

Geographical entry limitations at the show promoters discretion.

We are considering calling this entry level division Street and renaming the regular Street Divison to Pro Street (as suggested by others in discussion.)

Another thread will deal with the Standard dB Drag Racing divisions.