This naming method may cause some initial confusion but it is more consistant with drag racing classes. In drag racing circles, "pro street" is the ultimate door-slammer class. the "super street" division is a step down, having highly modified cars, but not as radical as the "pro street" cars.

Does this make sense to you guys?

However, one question I've seen buried elsewhere - but not answered - would this years "Street" hold the same limitations as last years? ie - if you're in the top 15, or on down as invitee who attended finals - must you move out of street?

Some competitors contend that since the name was "changing" to "pro street" - that rule didn't apply.

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I think that the "novice class" should be called "street". Last years "street" class should be called "super street". Last years "super street" class should be renamed to "pro street." and finally, keep extreme the same.

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Originally posted by Dragon Lady:
Wayne- your class naming makes the most sense.

However, one question I've seen buried elsewhere - but not answered - would this years "Street" hold the same limitations as last years? ie - if you're in the top 15, or on down as invitee who attended finals - must you move out of street?

Some competitors contend that since the name was "changing" to "pro street" - that rule didn't apply.

With the name/class remaining the same, and "novice" being introduced - does the mandatory move-up still apply?

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Originally posted by car tunes:
just one question on the novice division / pro street division. who or how do you decipher is in these classes? what constitutes a novice?let me use for example donaldm goes to all the shows in ny and can sometimes win himself a trouphy,but has yet to make it to world finals . Is it because hes competed before he is a pro? Or is he still novice because he hasnt qualified yet for world finals, reason im asking is i plan on holding a couple more show this year and im sure Don doesnt want me to put him in a class he doesnt belong in. we need some clarification on this part of the rule because it will be argued at events . hence once you give in for one you must give in for all this takes out the fun - jeff

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Street and Pro Street

I think this goes along very well with the 'side by side' action that is accustomed with (dB) Drag Racing. After all, drag racing means side by side, fastest wins...whereas loudest wins in this case.

As far as calling it Amateur or Begineer division:
This is what the class actually is but you don't see us calling Super Street-Pro and Extreme-Expert. I think a person competing in the proposed Street class would hold a little more pride in saying they compete in Street rather than Amateur or Novice.

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Originally posted by Dragon Lady:
Wayne- your class naming makes the most sense.

However, one question I've seen buried elsewhere - but not answered - would this years "Street" hold the same limitations as last years? ie - if you're in the top 15, or on down as invitee who attended finals - must you move out of street?

Some competitors contend that since the name was "changing" to "pro street" - that rule didn't apply.

With the name/class remaining the same, and "novice" being introduced - does the mandatory move-up still apply?

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If the "unknown" competitor was in street class in the 2001 season, and if the "unknown" competitor did receive an invite to finals in the 2001 season, then the rules for 2001 season should still apply. If the rule (for maditory class change) is to be dropped from the 2002 rules, it should not change the fact that the "unknown" competitor knew the rules for 2001, and competed knowing that he/she would be required to move into a different class for the 2002 season. Just because the name of the a class changes in a following year, does not automatically cancel the rule for the season in which the competitor was active in.

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Originally posted by car tunes:
just one question on the novice division / pro street division. who or how do you decipher is in these classes? what constitutes a novice?let me use for example donaldm goes to all the shows in ny and can sometimes win himself a trouphy,but has yet to make it to world finals . Is it because hes competed before he is a pro? Or is he still novice because he hasnt qualified yet for world finals, reason im asking is i plan on holding a couple more show this year and im sure Don doesnt want me to put him in a class he doesnt belong in. we need some clarification on this part of the rule because it will be argued at events . hence once you give in for one you must give in for all this takes out the fun - jeff

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Originally posted by QuadCam:
I think that the "novice class" should be called "street". Last years "street" class should be called "super street". Last years "super street" class should be renamed to "pro street." and finally, keep extreme the same.

Andrew

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I like these class names the msot

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Originally posted by car tunes:
hey don , nothing ment by my remarks, i just know you had some problems last year with some of the competiters equiptment . so i used you for example . im sure you will pick up the 8 db s this year:-) but we still need an answer it , leaving you in amiture would pit you against guys like scott baxter and a few others . we really need clarification to whos a novice and whos a pro streeter- jeff

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But PLEASE, if more classes are going to be added, please make it very clear, and very written, how to merge classes, when the rest of the world will hardly have any cars above Street.

Like only merge classes with less that 4 cars ONLY, and only merge to a max of 8 cars, so if some poor sucker in the lowest of the merged class, comes last, he still gets points.

Also, could you make it VERY clear, and VERY written, how to move the novice/street competitiors up at the end of the year, as its a joke for our own countries, when the top people can stay in the bottom class, just because they didnt qualify for the world finals, that they will never qualify for, no matter their placing in our own countries, I would like to see a written "move-up" rule, that could apply to every country. Please understand, that this could damage the sport in our countries, if it isnt written.

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Originally posted by car tunes:
i remember that incodent , i wish i could of helped you out i have a feeling your gonna se some changes at the local show this up comming season, make it to my show my single point shows will be treated as if triples. well ok not that strict but you know how thurough i am - jeff

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