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After speaking with a number of retailers, judges, and manufacturers, I believe we should name the new competition divisions as follows...
1. Novice Division - The name encourages newcomers to play. We have been referring to this division on-line as the Street Division.
2. Street Division - Leave the name alone. (Just like in 2001) We have been referring to this division on-line as the Pro Street Division. The word PRO creates confusion with regards to this division. Especially in light of the fact that no sponsored vehicles will be allowed.
3. Super Street Division - Leave the name alone.
4. Extreme Division - Leave the name alone.
Most parties believe that the existing names should be left alone to minimize confusion in 2002. In addition, the Novice division describes the type of competitor that will be competing in this class. We believe this will encourage people to compete because they will know that they are competing against other Novice competitors.
What do you think?
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When members of this forum was discussing the rules, before the propositions post were created, the Street / Pro-Street idea was a means to seperate the two classes. even with different names, the classes will still be seperated. It is not so much as the name, that is as important, but how the classes will be different.
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I have never liked the term "Novice" as it isnt something that a 16-20 year old would like to be labelled. On the other hand, I don't have a good suggestion to offer in place of the word novice
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I like the idea of the novice name and then street name.....This would help encourage curious new competitors to compete more maybe because they won't be going up against the big dogs...
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Also Wayne for the Novice Division why not just make them have to play their systems for like 15 seconds instead of 30....less chance of them blowing up their stuff
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quote:Originally posted by DodgeRam: Also Wayne for the Novice Division why not just make them have to play their systems for like 15 seconds instead of 30....less chance of them blowing up their stuff
That would also allow them less time to find their optimum frequency. If the Novice class is to be geared towards the "new" competitor, then it would be safe to assume that the "new" competitor may require some assistance in "learning the ropes". To shorten thier time limit, would be an injustice to them, the spectators, and the organization as a whole. Plus, it would create "specialized" rules, which could be viewed with negative results. Just because someone is new, does not mean that they should not be allowed the same time limits that the veteran competitors receive. Some "new" competitor could view the shortened time limit as a way of saying that they are less of a competitor, so they are not allowed the same previledges as a veteran competitor.
If a "new" competitor is concerned about destroying audio equipment during thier alloted time limit, they have the right to adjust their system accordingly.
That would also allow them less time to find their optimum frequency. If the Novice class is to be geared towards the "new" competitor, then it would be safe to assume that the "new" competitor may require some assistance in "learning the ropes". To shorten thier time limit, would be an injustice to them, the spectators, and the organization as a whole. Plus, it would create "specialized" rules, which could be viewed with negative results. Just because someone is new, does not mean that they should not be allowed the same time limits that the veteran competitors receive. Some "new" competitor could view the shortened time limit as a way of saying that they are less of a competitor, so they are not allowed the same previledges as a veteran competitor.
If a "new" competitor is concerned about destroying audio equipment during thier alloted time limit, they have the right to adjust their system accordingly.
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well you do have a good point about them not being able to find there freq....I didn't think about that..But aren't we also making different rules for them in other ways also..guess most should be able to sit inside their vehicles also..most wouldn't go over 140 db.....and should we raise that number alittle bit?? 145?? 150??
quote:...But aren't we also making different rules for them in other ways also...
Hopefully, the dBDRA will recognize the importance of keeping the rules of Novice and Street identical. This would help remove the chances that a "new" competitor being faced with negative comments, in the case that they win in the Novice class.
quote:guess most should be able to sit inside their vehicles also..most wouldn't go over 140 db.....and should we raise that number alittle bit?? 145?? 150??
Since OSHA has has stated that 140db is the maximum allowance, the dBDRA could be risking law suits if competitors were allowed to be remain in situations which are "proven" to be a dangerous environment.
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In Norway and Sweden, we used the name "Street Rookie" this year as a entry level class, with alot of compettitors in that class... We used the same rules as in Street, but limited the system up to 10 000,- Nkr/Skr...
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I like "Consumer" for for the newbie class. It doesnt sound as degrading as novice.
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And our novice class here was called Low Street, but that might sound little funny... I think I like the novice better.
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just one question on the novice division / pro street division. who or how do you decipher is in these classes? what constitutes a novice?let me use for example donaldm goes to all the shows in ny and can sometimes win himself a trouphy,but has yet to make it to world finals . Is it because hes competed before he is a pro? Or is he still novice because he hasnt qualified yet for world finals, reason im asking is i plan on holding a couple more show this year and im sure Don doesnt want me to put him in a class he doesnt belong in. we need some clarification on this part of the rule because it will be argued at events . hence once you give in for one you must give in for all this takes out the fun - jeff
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