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I HOPE WAYNE SEE'S THESE LAST FEW POST!!!! KEEP IT 100 PNTS YOU STILL HAVE TO BE CERTIFIED.. SINCE IASCA IS PRETTY MUCH GONE MY CREW WANTED TO SUPPORT DB DRAG THIS YEAR BUT IF THE 150 PNT THING HAPPENS, I CAN'T EVEN SEE GOING TO SBN.
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quote:Originally posted by TFSPL1: I HOPE WAYNE SEE'S THESE LAST FEW POST!!!! KEEP IT 100 PNTS YOU STILL HAVE TO BE CERTIFIED.. SINCE IASCA IS PRETTY MUCH GONE MY CREW WANTED TO SUPPORT DB DRAG THIS YEAR BUT IF THE 150 PNT THING HAPPENS, I CAN'T EVEN SEE GOING TO SBN.
Check out the voting...looks as if 100pts is here to stay...
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I know this will probably cause a lot of comotion, but here's my thoughts on the equipment change rule: First off, let me say that as of yet, I'm NOT a competetor. I do, however, attend the world finals every year. One of the exciting things for me as a spectator is seeing competors build or re-build their vehicles on sight. I can't imagine going to the finals and not seeing this, it just adds to the excitement. I can understand not being able to add equipment(going from 1 amp or sub to 2 or whatever) but as long as it doesn't change the class for which you are qualified for, I personally don't see the problem. The other part of this rule I don't understand is the fact that the equipment must be comercially available 60 days prior to the finals. What about the smaller companies(Atomic Thunder, Treo, Concept, Crystal, etc...) who don't necessarily have the money that the bigger companies do to promote new products. If the whole point of dbDrag Racing is to promote new competetors and spectators, wouldn't that also apply to new companies who's goal might be to launch their new line at the world finals. I remember at the 2000 finals, Treo, who was fairly new at the time, set up a booth and because their woofers did very well in competetion, their booth activity was increased and they are now somewhat of a household name so to speak. Concept also displayed at the 2000 finals in a TINY booth, but their monsterous 18" quad-coil woofer changed just about everyones outlook on what a really big woofer was. I can understand that everyone wants to try to keep things fair, but as long as the basic rules of equipment are held firm, I don't see how using another companies new product will affect the competition as a whole. Just my thoughts...
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i think im with Ed Nuttal on this point. 100 points is enough the local show promoters need to do some work to get the newbie's out to compete at there stores and some will go for more show due to not owning there own testing equipment of just for fun but dont make anyone choose between family and competing.
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I may have waited a little too late to ask this question, but here it is... What it the purpose of the additional requirements in rule 3-5 ?
quote:3-5 Nothing must interfere with the placement of the microphone or the use of the microphone jig.
Additional Requirements for Extreme Division competitors · Each competitor must provide adequate space for the placement of the microphone stand on the passenger side of the vehicle. (A minimum 12-inch diameter flat surface is required.)
· Competitors are requested to attach 3 straps (tie-down, Velcro, or equivalent), spaced in a Y configuration, to hold the legs of the microphone stand in place.
If an event is anticpipated to be using the window suction cups, then why is the mic stand placement area required? Will a competitor, in the extreme class, be allowed to modify the vehicle (before the event begins) if the stands are not being used at the event?
PS. I apologize for this not being in-line with the questions that were originally asked.
quote:Originally posted by Wayne Harris: Please post your thoughts with regards to the following changes that may be implemented for 2002.
Competition vehicles and systems may not be altered during competition at any multipoint event. Damaged equipment may only be replaced with equivalent components. For example, you could replace a blown 400 watt amp with another brand's 400 watt amp. You could not replace a 400 watt amp with a 1000 watt amp at the show. [/list]
Please comment on these items.
[ 12-26-2001: Message edited by: Wayne Harris ]
What about if I bring my back up subs and they have different coils, does this count?
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Hi, This fis Chris Smutz from Northern Music & Video in Potsdam NY. I personally think that the increase to 150 points is a little bit much. Here's my reasoning. Most of us as competitors are also store owners and or installers. In a small town such as ours, and many others across the United States we care alot about both our love for the game and our customers who have continually supported us through the years. I think that if you are set to raise the amount of points to qualify for the big game that it will be much harder for people in our position to gain points to make it there.....Does that mean that we don't love this as much as the guy who lives where there is a double or triple point show every week or a single pointer every week within a couple hours away? I don't think so. I've been in car audio for a long time and my love for this and the competition runs very deep in my blood. I think that 150 points is a little bit excessive, in a matter of speaking. I guess it really depends on where your standing in the United States. We have a fair amount of shops in this area, and I hope that your decision benefits everyone. Chris Smutz Northern Music & Video Team Xtreme founding member
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i gotta agree with nmv extreme,i live in a small town with a handful of shows,i love this game but i love my family more.i dont mind traveling but if it comes down to my sons ballgame or my daughters dance rehearsal,ya know i gotta go for them 1st.100 points is more than enough triple pointers arent around here much as it is i gotta travel 6 hours for one this weekend,but i cant afford it all the time.
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If you read the 2002 dB drag rules you will see that the points requirement is 100 points this year.
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I like to laugh at those die hards that say "if youre serious about this sport than you could easily travel and get 150 points" HA! I live in Sault ste Marie MI. We have like 4 1x events all year in the entire state of MI!! Which means Id have to travel to another state. Plus whats a serious competetor? I like to compete in street 1-2 cause its fun and because Im too poor to have nice setup for anything else. Me begin poor and being in school doesnt make it convienient to go all around the country trying to make points.
Just my 2 cents. God to see they kept it 100.
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quote:Originally posted by toastedhead: I like to laugh at those die hards that say "if youre serious about this sport than you could easily travel and get 150 points" HA! I live in Sault ste Marie MI. We have like 4 1x events all year in the entire state of MI!! Which means Id have to travel to another state. Plus whats a serious competetor? I like to compete in street 1-2 cause its fun and because Im too poor to have nice setup for anything else. Me begin poor and being in school doesnt make it convienient to go all around the country trying to make points.
Just my 2 cents. God to see they kept it 100.
Not everyone can do what it takes to make it to finals...that's why its called World Finals....
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I think you guys need to make up your minds., if you want the sport to grow keep the points requirement at 100., or less If you just want to increase the focus to diehard competitors., then by all means increase the point requirement., and then sit back and see competitor participation decrease. I want to see 50 or more competitors in a single class., i.e. twin 12., one amp., street 1.2 at an event., not four or five per class. Please., no flame.
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People have made up their mind already, the rules have been out for a couple of months already. BTW, the points requirement is still 100 points. If you want to check out the 2002 rules, here's a direct link: [URL=http://www.termpro.com/dbdrag/rules/2002/rules02.html[/URL]
I think there will be a new section for 2003 rules discussion sometime after the World Finals is over, then you can discuss next years rules if you want.
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quote:Originally posted by DodgeRam: Not everyone can do what it takes to make it to finals...that's why its called World Finals....
? i don't follow this. World Finals means to me competitors from all over the world, not people who had to travel all over the world to accrue enough points.
What if db drag was centered mainly in Oregon or Colorado and the midwest/east coast had as many events as they do out west or even here in the deep south (read: zero in louisiana). What i'm tryin to say is, what if the tables were flip-flopped, all you people who can drive a couple hours to events all the time now have to drive even more hours on fewer weekends....and thus couldn't accrue the points necessary. i'm sure you'd be saying the same thing as many of these other people.
I agree there should be a point minimum...not arguing that, just saying that just cuz you can't make the points doesn't make you a true competitor.
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What are your thoughts on how to lower scores again??? it seems like we are treading into another mic issue with the extremes getting so loud. How about old RTA mic position??
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Randy, I think this is what it needs to get away from pockets and loading the front windshield, also it would possibly kill the port to 1 side so it would open things back up... To get this sport affordable again I think it should go to ss 2 10's ss2- 12's ss2-15's ss 2-17/18 or some form of that, not 2 amps per coil and 40 batteries. It's crazy the amount of money spent by manuf. on r&d just for SPL drivers .. let's get it back to overall box design!!! Somehow no matter what road we take the mics are not going to keep up, at this pace especially with guys like you planning on 176's..
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