yup i walk next to my carry my HU...sometimes i have to run to keep up.....maybe even having my GF sitting on the roof to play a CD

I use a remote outside of my car.....if your worried about blowing stuff due to remote failuire then make sure you have NEW batteries in it.....

Like many other Sports(RACING)if one thing doesnt work then you might lose...

Well i just have to say...THATS LIFE

I can't think of ANY manufacturers that don't have at least ONE HU that has a remote - even Jensen. (ok, maybe roadgear and sparkomatic don't have remotes) And IR repeaters are allowed to ensure the signal gets from the remote to the HU.

To be outside the car just makes sense. There is a liability issue in this law-suit happy world that if dbDrag officials allowed competitors to make themselves deaf, they could by some crack-pot jury be found liable for the stupidity of some competitor who just didn't think the rules for the safety of all, applied to him.

It's like buying coffee, spilling it on one's self and then suing the restaurant. It's not the restaurant's fault you're an idiot, but 12 more idiots on a jury may see things your way. That kind of liability is something none of us want to see take dbDrag down.

first of all when i crank it up too loud the cd player skips, i don't want to take it out to replace it because then my heads-up display won't work, my steering wheel radio controls won't work, my keyless entry won't work, and i'm told other things could go wrong because it ties into the computer and it will void warranties.

secondly the stock head unit will not play the dbdragracing cd's, the track skip doesen't do anything. i have to fast forward and not know what track i am playing.

i don't want to void any warranties on my car. what do i do? if i could possibly mount a head unit somewhere else in the vehicle and stand outside with a remote and ir repeater, that would probably solve my problem. but would that be considered legal if the rule still states that the head unit needs to stay in the dash in the factory location. maybe if it had to be mounted in the passenger compartment within the drivers reach or somthing. i don't mind having to stand outside the vehicle, or not being able to use a podium.

any other suggestions would be appreciated.

sorry, i will try to fix it soon.

But that doesn't solve the problem of locating it elsewhere. Is there a single-din sized pocket somewhere in the dash area that perhaps Metra makes a kit for that you can adapt to be an after-market deck? (Trying to remember what the interior of an Aztek looks like, but somehow I doubt that it can't be changed because Pontiac and all manufacturers 1) usually have a din-sized pocket somewhere as a catch-all and 2) usually offer an upgrade w/changer as a package they do at the dealer).

Is there a center console? Can you create a custom housing where the cooler-armrest goes and mount the HU in there? (would make it easy if you've got a sunroof to bounce in the remote beam)? Can you put it in the glove-box?

(Trying to remember my user id to GM's media site. May take me a while but I'm looking for decent pics to see if I can locate somewhere that looks like it may work).

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(Trying to remember my user id to GM's media site. May take me a while but I'm looking for decent pics to see if I can locate somewhere that looks like it may work).

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you might be able to find a picture at gmbuypower.com

i probably could mount the head unit in the center console, but i want to make sure it will be legal for pro-street.

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Shedluv
posted 12-27-2001 12:25 PM

Pro Street is for professional type - street-beating systems. NO street-beaters have head units outside of their vehicle PERIOD.

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I do.
Daily driver / 40+ miles a day. Two 12s.
I have a plug which I installed at the beginning of the 2000 season and at the same time as the head unit just incase the rules changed to allow it, or I had to compete in a SS class during the season in order to get enough points to qualify, I doubt I'm the only one, and, this is Pro-Street, so a few minor differences would be expected, and what about skipping problems? Since this is a "Pro" class, I'm sure there will be much higher scores than the regular 'nubie' Street class - maybe even 160s this season, how do you keep even a changer from skipping at that level!?!

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You could have a under 140 bracket, 140-150, and a over 150. Yes, I know that would mean that everyone would be trying to get close the cross over marks, but that would also make for great competiton at the cross over points. So a guy with a low budjet, or low expertise would be competing against a others that also have lower numbers. this would elminate the cargo van, seat removing, pro/non-pro arguements. You play loud, you compete against guys that also play loud. Play not so loud, you don't get blown away, you just compete in a lower db class.

This would have the SS and extreme vehicles going straight out for loudness, and lower class/classes going for close to a predetermined score without going over. If the lower class competitor wants to know how flat out load there system is, have a seperate run just for that without prizes, just bragging rights.

To make the bracketing even more competitive, don't show the score until the end of the run, and then allow someone that went over, to buy back in, perhaps at a lower rate, to qualifing once or twice. That way, you can get a good feel for the conditions, and make adjustments if you need to. It will also generate more revenue for db drags, as I know I would definitly buy back in for $10 or $20 if I went over my bracket limit.

I just wanted to share my thoughts as a soon to be competitor, and I hope I didn't upset/offend anyone, and hope that it helps.

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• The Pro Street division WILL be offered at the dB Drag Racing World Finals and all multi-point events.
  
• No cargo vans or commercial vehicles will be permitted to compete in this division.
  
• No sponsored vehicles will be permitted to compete in this division.
  
• Enclosures must be located behind the rearmost door's trailing door jamb (for vehicles with removable seats.)
  

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Originally posted by Alemuthafukinjandro:

you might be able to find a picture at gmbuypower.com

i probably could mount the head unit in the center console, but i want to make sure it will be legal for pro-street.

plus, my center console cooler is removable from the factory (it's a removable cooler for those who don't know about the azteks), could i remove it and mount a head unit in its place?

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Originally posted by Alemuthafukinjandro:

i don't want to void any warranties on my car. what do i do? if i could possibly mount a head unit somewhere else in the vehicle and stand outside with a remote and ir repeater, that would probably solve my problem. but would that be considered legal if the rule still states that the head unit needs to stay in the dash in the factory location. maybe if it had to be mounted in the passenger compartment within the drivers reach or somthing. i don't mind having to stand outside the vehicle, or not being able to use a podium.

any other suggestions would be appreciated.

thanks!!!

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and we created this class to get away from the amatures, because the scores are too high, so as a benefit to being in the "pro" class I believe we should be able to use a podium/external head unit!

It would make it a whole lot easier on 99% of the "pro" street competitors to use this!

thanks for your time!

Billy Woodward,

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this is Pro-Street, so a few minor differences would be expected, and what about skipping problems? Since this is a "Pro" class, I'm sure there will be much higher scores than the regular 'nubie' Street class -

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Ok if this is "PRO-STREET" then we are "pros", correct?
and we created this class to get away from the amatures, because the scores are too high, so as a benefit to being in the "pro" class I believe we should be able to use a podium/external head unit!

It would make it a whole lot easier on 99% of the "pro" street competitors to use this!

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the only reason we were calling it pro-street was to keep the amatuers seperated from the veterans.. Why are we trying to add new rules now? It just makes things more confusing than they already are.

Keep the street and pro-street rules identical, otherwise there will be nothing but confusion when it comes time to determine what is allowed in each class. The only difference between the two classes should be that pro-street has "real" points that count toward world finals... Street does not.

Just my opinion.

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Originally posted by fixxxer:
Having head-units outside of a "street" class car totally contradicts the purpose of calling it the street class.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the only reason we were calling it pro-street was to keep the amatuers seperated from the veterans.. Why are we trying to add new rules now? It just makes things more confusing than they already are.

Keep the street and pro-street rules identical, otherwise there will be nothing but confusion when it comes time to determine what is allowed in each class. The only difference between the two classes should be that pro-street has "real" points that count toward world finals... Street does not.

Just my opinion.

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Originally posted by Alemuthafukinjandro:
well, here is part of my delema. i have a 2001 pontiac aztek (no funny jokes please) and i have my system running off of my stock head unit, which brings up a couple of issues.

first of all when i crank it up too loud the cd player skips, i don't want to take it out to replace it because then my heads-up display won't work, my steering wheel radio controls won't work, my keyless entry won't work, and i'm told other things could go wrong because it ties into the computer and it will void warranties.

secondly the stock head unit will not play the dbdragracing cd's, the track skip doesen't do anything. i have to fast forward and not know what track i am playing.

i don't want to void any warranties on my car. what do i do? if i could possibly mount a head unit somewhere else in the vehicle and stand outside with a remote and ir repeater, that would probably solve my problem. but would that be considered legal if the rule still states that the head unit needs to stay in the dash in the factory location. maybe if it had to be mounted in the passenger compartment within the drivers reach or somthing. i don't mind having to stand outside the vehicle, or not being able to use a podium.

any other suggestions would be appreciated.

thanks!!!

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Originally posted by fixxxer:
Having head-units outside of a "street" class car totally contradicts the purpose of calling it the street class.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the only reason we were calling it pro-street was to keep the amatuers seperated from the veterans.. Why are we trying to add new rules now? It just makes things more confusing than they already are.

Keep the street and pro-street rules identical, otherwise there will be nothing but confusion when it comes time to determine what is allowed in each class. The only difference between the two classes should be that pro-street has "real" points that count toward world finals... Street does not.

Just my opinion.

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Street isn't Pro-Street,and Pro-Street isn't Street,the Street class was originally designed for 'nubies' hitting 147s - 152s,and not the 158s-160s we will be likely to see this season,at least in Pro-Street 3-4,if not also in PS1-2.

There are both SS classes,and EX classes,their rules are different from each other and that doesn't seem to be a major problem.

You don't put a huge engine in a car with so light a frame it will bend the frame just trying to make full power,you don't put 5 gallons of water in a kettle if you only wanna cook a cup of rice,and it seems like we are talking about a class which should be hittin in the 160s which for some strange reason you want rules which are not well suited for the class,just because they are rules for the lowest class?

Why put together a system which is bound to skip like crazy? -So everyone will know who makes the junkiest head units?

It would be cool to have two identical classes, though a bit redundant,to see the difference a little experience can make,but I would like to see a PS class where it is actually a small step up,or "migration" as Wayne called it,to a level a bit higher, instead of just having identical classes with two different groups of people populating them.

But usually I agree with Fixxer...

Again,this is just my dessenting opinion

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Originally posted by Iceman91:
I think pro street is a good idea The only thing i would really like to see in that division is no caravans and no crx's (well maybe crx's ) Just let it be everyday driven street bumpn cars if u know what i am saying otherwise you will have a lot of unhappy ex-DB Dragger's out ther.......

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Originally posted by ShockingCanada:
I think there should be no cargo vans in No Wall since they have no windows and so give an unfair advantage. As for no caravans that is the most retarded thing I have ever heard in my life, are you trying to tell me that noone who drives a caravan everyday has a system? if you are then you must be stupid because I know that I began competing with my van last season and competed with it this season as well and yes it is my daily driver and yes I do drive it around with the box all the way to the front...

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