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I am a new member that is going to compete in 1-2 street. I think 1-2 street totals are not that high. However the suggestion are good. Mainly me and my friend are just going to ride around pa compete and see how we like it. One thing I don't like is the limit on one fared bass caps just getting the car ready I ran through three alternators. I had to buy a back up one. If we could use a capasitor bank. I would burn up alot less alternators, which seems to be the most expensive part right now. I only have about $500 into subs and amps.
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I just wanted to say that i don't think it's a good idea to group pro street, and any super street classes together.It would put the people in pro street at a maijor disatvantage.Pro street is still limited to 1 amp, and a pair of 12in. subs, how can this compete against multi amps, and 15in. subs? Just my opion.
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YAY! there is going to a pro-street class, im really excited now. Thanks Wayne. why change ss nw?? didnt see anything wrong with it. pro-street 1 amp and 2 12s going against 2 15s and unlimited power, thats gonna suck
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quote:Originally posted by jliehr: In chat Wayne told me something that might be of help. Super Street NW will be like an unlimted street class, no limit on woofer size or amps, but same restrictions as the ones above in Pro Street.
this would be a great idea, i know that a lot of people would like the rules to change to suit them, but the no-wall class of 2001 was just a ss 1-2 class for pick-up trucks with cut throughs, sure they were no wall technically, but basicly you needed this type of vehicle to be the loudest in this class. i know that i am only one voice, but i see a lot of cars with 15's or 18's in the back seat or trunk that are loud and look good, they show up at a competion and get put into the ss 1-2 class or the no wall class with someone with a pick-up with a cut through and get blown away. just imagine how many more customer/competitors would show up at local events with a true street car with one 15 or two 15's or one 18 that would be put into a 1-2 nw class and not get blown away by a wall(basicly) in a pick-up. i for one do not belief that i should have to go out and buy a certain type of vehicle to be competitive in a street class(even ss class) as i read last year the no wall class was introduced to allow competitors with larger than 12" speakers to have a better playing field than being stuck into the ss 1-2 class, well the way i see the no wall class of 2001 was just a ss 1-2 class for pick-up trucks.
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IF you have seats that fold down and you want to fold them down will that keep you in street of super street if its behind the door jam because i have a blazer that has factory seats that fold down and want to stay in street but want to know my limits
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leave no wall alone,please.you are trying to fix something that isn't broke,which in the end is going to caus even more controversy.did anyone EVER complain about nw classes?if, so i've never heard any complaints or seen any posts about it.i do like the pro-street idea though and thanks wayne for letting the street guys have something to look forward to.
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the only thing I would change in No Wall is I would make it have no cargovans and no cut throughs...cut throughs are borderline but cargo vans should definately be illegal since there are no windows and nothing on the ceiling etc...that is the ONLY change I would make to no wall
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In no wall let cut troughs in trucks go. If they are not allowed where you gonna put them. SS 1-2 ( problem here is the box goes all the way up to the top of the cabin and most cut throughs dont) other option is make a class for trucks with cut throughs (why add a class when it is not needed ) leave ss nw alone this will be my first year in db drags and i have a truck with a cut through so this issue pretains to me and if wayne wants to to discuss this he will post someting on no wall.
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quote:Originally posted by ShockingCanada: the only thing I would change in No Wall is I would make it have no cargovans and no cut throughs...cut throughs are borderline but cargo vans should definately be illegal since there are no windows and nothing on the ceiling etc...that is the ONLY change I would make to no wall
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I (and hope others too) would like too see that HU can be outside car. With results over 150 and close to 160 it doesn't make any sense to ''keep it cheap'' and have HU in dash. Actually it is more expensive to have HU in dash!!!
So Wayne, can we expect change or should newbies start buying remotes and changers.
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I dont know if this has ever been asked, but, here goes.
When I used to run my car at the strip, I never knew what my time was until I hit the lights at the opposite end. In dBdrag, you know your score DURING your run. How much excitement would it add to wait until your run is complete to get your number?? I mean, it would definately keep the sandbaggers out....
no scores shown until the run is compelte will also no doubt make a lot of people angry, the ones who lose...
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To answer Ron, simply because if you have a problem or need to change frequency you wont have the opportunity to see if the change helps.
My suggestions since this is PRO street:
1)Allow HO alternators, with the average cost of one below $500 most competitors can afford one. *If not allowed, can we require judges to have an ammeter and training in order to do testing for them at multipoint events?*
2)Allow sponsorship, if it is a PRO division of street. *How is it going to be policed if not?*
The one thing I would like cleared up from Wayne is, is PRO street going to be at 1X events? If not how are they going to compete at 1X events and not get "slaughtered" if they are forced into SSNW?
Just my .02 and a question.
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IF WAYNE HAS A PRO STREET DIVISION IN 2002 WOULD HE LIFT THE 2001 FINALIST RESTRICTION FROM PRO STREET CLASS?
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quote:Originally posted by THE-SCRAPER: IF WAYNE HAS A PRO STREET DIVISION IN 2002 WOULD HE LIFT THE 2001 FINALIST RESTRICTION FROM PRO STREET CLASS?
By the sound of things, Pro Street can be competed in by anyone who chooses to. There is no begineer restrictions being placed on Pro Street from what I can see. So if you so choose to, you can compete in Pro Street whether you competed Street 1-2 last year or Extreme 1-2. We'll have to wait and see for a final ruling when the 2002 rules become completed, however.
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Why should a CRX be banned? It is one of the most popular cars with enthusiasts. I see at least 15-20 a day crusing around. Seriously, it's a street car. Commercial vehicles are GONE, so let's go take our cars and make them loud. Build it, play it, if you win, awesome! If not, go back and make it louder, don't come and try to get equipment banned or cars banned, just get louder!
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It is great to see wayne know the importance to this class! As for changes: 1)I agree with steve baker about no removable seats. Street was originally like this, seats stay in. 2)stay as factory as possible. a)NO EXPANDING FOAM! it is definitely an advantage, and a true daily driver, nice car will not do this to their car. b)all panels or oem compatible replacements need to be present. I saw alot of paneless cars in the lanes, to be street all panels need to be in. For anyone saying they cannot get their panels for the car, then get an oem compatible replacement. 3)Waynes idea for keeping the boxes behind the farmost door jamb is a good idea. But to keep the avantage away from sports cars, word it to keep the box behind the fartest most seat AND door jamb. Basically making it it the fartest rear of the vehicle, and nothing shall interfere with the normal operation of the vehicle(aka: no boxes on seats). 4)NO AMPS IN THE ENGINE COMPARTMENT!!! equipment must reside with the encoure(exluding the battery) behind the farmost seat and doorjamb. I mean come on, who driving their vehicle will have an amp in their engine compartment? I think these rules will make street more straight forward and fair!
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quote:Originally posted by RUJELLIS?: 2)stay as factory as possible. a)NO EXPANDING FOAM! it is definitely an advantage, and a true daily driver, nice car will not do this to their car. b)all panels or oem compatible replacements need to be present. I saw alot of paneless cars in the lanes, to be street all panels need to be in. For anyone saying they cannot get their panels for the car, then get an oem compatible replacement.
Does this mean that I can build SS style door panels? I think that ALL panels should stay in. Otherwise, we'll see cars with all the panels removed and replaced with 1/4" plywood.
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Do not mix "Pro Street Division" rules with "Super Street Division" rules.
Example... Some one in super street 1-2 NW class sees that they can have a comercial van in the super street division rules elsewhere in the handbook..... so do they go by the super street division rules or the Pro Street/Super Street no wall rules?
Luin
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i believe the no wall class worked good last year. only factory sponsered vehicles should not beable to compete in street. shop sponsered should be able too. i also want to know if anything will be done about the mounting of amps under hoods as seen at finals this year.
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i plan on competing in pro-street 3-4 this year, due to low funds from trying to buy a house this year. i would also like to see the rule change about the head units having to be located in the dash. my cd player already skips, and i plan on getting it louder. a simple head unit outside of the vehicle wouldn't neccesarily give someone an advantage over another, plus i'm talking about pro-street only, not street. i know of a lot of people who had problems with their remote controls, some lost the round or even fried subs.
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