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timmi
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well im about to go shopping for a router.. any suggestions?

will mostly be used for speaker hole cutouts, for 12's and 15's, and needs to cut thru 1.5" thick MDF if possible (double thick baffles)
thats about all the requirements... price isnt an issue

i will also need router bits and circle cutting jigs if you guys have any that you can recommend...

thanks much

tim


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Timmi:

I would recomend Porter Cable. If the budget is tight, they make a nice 1.5HP kit with a regular and a plunge base, for about $189.00 - $199.00. But for the money you can not go wrong with their 3.5HP version.

As far as bits go.
"www.amanatool.com"
"www.jesada.com"


I hope this helps.


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What budget are you working with?

If money isn't an issue then look into the Dewalt or Porter Cable 2HP models. Fine Woodworking Magazine voted them as best in class about three months ago. You can pick either online for about $250 or look into the Bosch for about $50 less. All of these are top-notch performers for the serious user who plans on working this sucker to the bone.

On a normal person's budget and need a fixed base too? Then look into the Porter Cable Combo mentioned above. $200 very well spent.

Lastly are you cheap? Is this going to be used only on a rare occasion? If so look into the Black & Decker Firestorm plunge Router. $70 and you can't go wrong. Kmart sells the non-Firestorm (Only diff is the color) version on their website (www.bluelight.com) and Home Depot sells them at their stores. I bought one after Fine Woodworking Magazine called it a best buy. Not exactly a precision piece but the motor is very good quality, it's easy to use, construction is very good, and at the price you can afford to buy another one down the line and not shed a tear. I recommend this one to all those jokers who think that you can use a Roto-Zip to cut 3/4" MDF.

As for circle cutting jigs I use the Jasper Model 200. I bought mine at a garage sale for $5 (same sale I bought a compond miter saw for $40 ) but retail is like $50. Parts Express sells them for $34 (part #365-250). Best jig for the money period.

Hope this info helps and good luck.

[ 08-18-2001: Message edited by: BetaTDI ]

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Almost forgot...Router Bits

Tons of places make them (I like the ones from MLCSWoodworking.com, rockler.com, and the Magna brand I buy at Lowes) and tons of them are top notch. Always look for solid Carbide bits and for plunging look into a 1/4" up-cutting spiral bit. It pulls the sawdust out of the groove you're cutting. You have to be a hair more gentle with these as opposed to standard srtaight cutter but they make life easier in the end.

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A 2hp may have trouble cutting through 1.5in MDF, that's pretty damn thick. I have the 2hp dewalt, great router, it cuts through 3/4 great, but double that? Hard to say. You can get the 3hp dewalt for around 280. For router bits... http://www.routerbits.com they sell whiteside bits, very very sharp, magazines always rate them high, and they are reasonably priced.

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sqbronco:
He doesn't have to worry about cutting 1.5" at one pass. I don't know of any hand held router that could do that. I could cut that using my little B&D router. Just have to use multiple smaller passes and use a longer cutting edge on your bit.

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HEY timmi,how ya doin?
dude i'm in the market for some new tools also and what i did to get some insite was to just put woodworking in the search engine and i found tons on info of what i was interested in and then i went to www.toolseeker.com and they found the cheapest price on the on the web....
GOOD LUCK and let me know what you get...I'm interested in the makita 3612 3 1/4 hp and the porter cable 3 1/4hp and also the bosch 1617evs they all got some great reviews...PEACE

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I 2nd what BetaTDI recommended. With a Dewalt or Porter Cable 2HP model, you can't go wrong. I personally prefer the Dewalt(just personal preference). If you’re on a budget, get the Black & Decker.

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thanks guys!

all this helps more than you can believe.. for your information im trying to get everything i would need for under 350.. so i have alot to choose from.. i will let you know my decision soon...

thanks again
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This is just my opinion, mind you.. Plunge routers have no advantages over fixed base except that plunge costs more. You can adjust the depth on a Porter Cable fixed base just as easily. They don't have all the extra gadgetry, but they work better IMO.

Cut 1/8 at a pass with a 1/4" spiral upcut. DONT USE 1/2 BITS ON MDF if you can avoid it.. They take such a big bite that you'd have to do such small passes to avoid kicking that a 1/4 bit will save you time in the long run.

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thanks shadow, ill take that into consideration (up here in alaska, my product choices may be limited anyways.. ill see what i can find from the ones listed here..)
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I happen to be a cabnetmaker and I have in my shop a Ryobi 3h.p. RE600 What ever brand you get, get one with a 1/2 shank. Then you will be able to cut the big stuff. I also have some smaller routers and they just can't do the job of a 3h.p. router. But you can't forget the Freud bits.

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well i finally went out and bought a router..
picked out a Dewalt 2HP (model 621). its very very nice, it does its job extremely well and was well within my price range.. thanks for the recommendations once again...

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how much are those pure carbide bits? and do they get dull fast? cause i saw some at home depot for like 70$ is it worth it?

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Shortyz: The same bits you can buy at Home Depot can be found at tons of online merchanst for a fraction of the cost. I like companies like www.mlcswoodworking.com www.eagleamerica.com www.rockler.com and www.pricecutter.com for inexpensive high quality bits.

Always buy carbide bits as they last the longest. Good luck with your router and I hope this helps.

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